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Hah fair point. It's like when people set their Vim leader to , or ; instead of ESC.
Also, for the single-key abbrevs I'd not use any prefix at all just like I have in my browsers "g something" googles "something", it's close to never when I need to search for a single letter (and in those cases I'd just add a space before " g" to let it parse as a literal) These ! prefixes are nice "visually", but the ergonomics haven't been thought through Basically, customization is the solution to such design mis…
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#822It’s still a hard sell. Netflix was running at 8.99 back in the day, I pay $5 for Spotify and Hulu combo as a student. These companies pay royalties, have to secure licenses, have the equipment to feed multimedia to me, apps, Netflix even makes shows now, etc. If they want to get to the average user they’ll need to figure out either a student discount, a combo with another service, light ads like Hulu or optimize the…
For comparison, I pay $3/month for mightytext. Which is a tool for Android that lets me send/view/search text messages on my phone from any browser. I'd pay $10/month for it, but kagi doesn't give me nearly that much value
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#823I can't do a long demo like I did with DDG because of the free limits, and $5-10 is a lot of money for me right now. So I ask here.
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#824For comparison, I pay $5 a month for my phone carrier with unlimited everything.
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#825I've been a Kagi customer since the beta, I'm still happy to pay for the privacy and for certain UX improvements they have, for instance being able to give higher or lower weight to different websites in search results. I do not think the quality of their search is any better than DDG or Google. If I am being honest, it's actually worse for a lot of things, if you don't factor in that you can block bad websites witho…
can you give a few examples where you would think that kagi wouldn't be able to match google?
One that I remember from a couple months ago was that I was trying to recall the name of an exercise they used to do (and may still) in design schools. In the exercise, students are given a problem and a short period of time to work on it, everybody working at the same time. At the end, they get together and critique each other's solutions.
My search terms in both Google and Kagi would have been something like "design exercise with simultaneous work and followup review".
If I run that search now, Kagi gives me articles about psychological studies that combine exercise with learning to test whether you retain more information. It interprets "exercise" as being physical exercise, which is the wrong sense of the word in this case. I think it interprets "design" as being the design of the study, which is also the wrong domain. It does give some articles about graphic design a little way down the page.
With the same terms, Google at least gives me articles about design related activities involving teams. At a glance (and in my memory of the original experiment) none of the articles give me the word I was looking for, but at least it knows the domain I'm searching in.
I remember this example because this was the first time I successfully used ChatGPT to ask about something, and it actually gave me the perfect response, with no fuss, and completely blew all the other systems out of the water. I gave it a natural language version of the same search as above, and it instantly told me the answer ("charrette") along with an accurate description.
So, maybe a bad example, because neither search engine was correct. But, Google definitely got me closer, and I suppose that if I did not have a very specific word in mind, it might have helped me by giving me examples of similar things. Kagi, frustratingly, seemed to have zero idea what I was asking about, and I could not even get it in the ballpark. I wish I could remember (or conjure up) a better example, but that's all I've got at the moment!
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It looks like their privacy policy backs this up. It’s also written in plain English, which I adore. “Searches are anonymous and private to you. Kagi does not log and associate searches with an account.” https://kagi.com/privacy
Not so plain. We do not (log AND associate), or we do not log AND we don’t associate? Am I supposed to believe that if their backend crashes after a user query, that can’t tell what has been queried?
> Am I supposed to believe that if their backend crashes after a user query, that can’t tell what has been queried?
I'm sure they'll know the query. They just won't know which user made the query.
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> it's easy to click "block this domain" Friendly reminder that google had this feature a decade ago then removed it. Hopefully someone in the C-Suite got a few back pats for that decision. https://searchengineland.com/google-brings-back-blocking-sit...
This seems the most obvious value add feature for search results at both an individual level and for reviewing overall moderation. I wonder what possible logic there could be to not allow it? The only one I can think of is they don't want bridgading to create a wider system block but that seems easily enough to resolve.
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#828On the cybersecurity front there are so many research articles, conference videos, and news articles just constantly flooding your feeds. There was an article on HN recently about the importance of "Critical Ignoring", to know what to ignore.
This has been a key tool in speeding that process up. Especially conference materials and news articles. They have such clickbait titles, it can be hard to determine what is legit and what is obvious. For news you can get a use the source as a fairly decent gauge on what the articles will be (quality wise). But for conference materials it is so hard. Summarization with the "Key Moments" lets you quickly determine if I should dig in more or not.
The Discuss option is super helpful on huge framework/audit documents to help you figure out is this the standard that requires xyz vs the other one. Once i know i'm in the right doc then i can zero in on what I was looking for.
Presenting Kagi as a tool for use in our larger Principal/Architect team next week. Will be very interested in Enterprise/Corporate plans once they are a thing.
Thanks for all the work Vlad (and team)!
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My car that I bought was used precisely for what it was intended. And it depreciates through its life until it is no longer useful and its value is zero. We buy lots of depreciating assets because we need them. That’s not bad, necessarily. But don’t buy a car as an investment. I brought up food because it’s a depreciating asset. You buy it, you eat it, its value depreciated to zero. It’s not cute, just pointing out t…
Yes. But cars are expensive *and* for the most part they are unutilized. When you're slepping...the car sits. When you're working...the car sits. An given society that's based on personal transportation (e.g., USA) at any given moment has a significant amount of resources sitting around doing nothing. In a world now based on not-so-infinite resources less cars (via, car on demand) is more than just a biz model. It's…
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#830I almost never comment here on HN (or anywhere actually), but I feel the need to express how happy I am that I found (lost in a comment a few days ago) this service. For the past three or so years I have tried half a dozen times to leave Google Search. Tried DDG, Brave Search and some others I can't remember now. But the "poor" quality of results had me going to Google for half of my searches, and after a while, just…