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Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by fiznool »

jchw wrote: post #188
sva_ wrote: post #168

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> 10 bucks a month for a tool that I use multiple times every single day is more than reasonable. This number really varies based on where you live, and there is no pricing model that accounts for this. I suppose it is mostly just aimed at Americans.

Some platforms actually do account for this by having special "developing countries" discounts, or some other euphemism like that. IIRC Gumroad is one that supports this.

The term you are looking for is ‘Purchasing Power Parity’.

https://www.oecd.org/sdd/purchasingpowerparities-frequentlya...

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by carlosjobim »

janalsncm wrote: post #658
carlosjobim wrote: post #154

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> How does search quality really change my life? There are tons of information workers who are dependent on search in their work – or if they're not, could work much better with good quality search. The examples are really too many to list, but it really depends on the person. When it comes to not spending a dollar, people will create the most incredible and reality-defying reasons. So I'd expect 99% of Google users…

Right, but then it doesn’t make sense for me as one of those information workers to pay for it. It’s not clear that I can get $120/year of value out of it.

Why isn't it clear? You can try it for free, or even pay for just a month in order to see if the quality is good enough. Then you know for sure if it's worth the price or if it isn't.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by Lutger »

laserbeam wrote: post #469
magic_hamster wrote: post #448

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> (Desktop) Linux, on the other hand, seems to be more of an intellectual experiment designed to please the people who are writing it rather than a consumer-focused product Honestly can't tell if you're joking, but I guess yes. Linux is the most stable OS I've ever used. There's a reason most mission critical and online services that require constant uptime run almost exclusively on Linux. Windows used to have a nice…

> There's a reason most mission critical and online services that require constant uptime run almost exclusively on Linux. That argument only applies to servers. Places where you don't need to wrangle x11, the audio stack, gpu drivers for less common cards, conflicting gtk and qt versions for different apps you might use on a whim, hidpi support in old apps, theming issues... I've no idea how many of these are still…

ymmv and this evidence is anecdotal of course, but our team has used linux on framework laptops now for more than a year and we experience way, way less issues than on windows.

I can't remember the last time I had a problem with linux as a desktop, everything just works. Of course, framework makes sure it does, just like every other manufacturer of laptops does with windows.

EDIT: multi-monitor support, bluetooth headset, printing, various audio devices, etc: this is all just plug and play in my experience, feels much smoother than on windows.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by coconut08 »

karaterobot wrote: post #183

I've been a Kagi customer since the beta, I'm still happy to pay for the privacy and for certain UX improvements they have, for instance being able to give higher or lower weight to different websites in search results. I do not think the quality of their search is any better than DDG or Google. If I am being honest, it's actually worse for a lot of things, if you don't factor in that you can block bad websites witho…

can you give a few examples where you would think that kagi wouldn't be able to match google?

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by nvm0n2 »

claytongulick wrote: post #479
freediver wrote: post #303

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Kagi founder here. You have my assurance this will not happen. Life is too short and I am not spending 10 years of my life building yet another ad-based search engine.

My biggest question - and the one that will drive me to subscribe right now is how "harmful" "misinformation" and "malinformation" is treated today, and how it will be in the future. I Do Not Want anything or anyone deciding what is good for me, what I should be seeing, or making it difficult for me to find things I'm searching for, regardless of the content. A search engine should be like the phone company - providi…

I'm also curious about this, but if the claim that it's mostly a proxy for Google with some way to rerank results is true, then it wouldn't solve that problem.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by brightball »

VHRanger wrote: post #193
rjh29 wrote: post #172

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Yeah you sound like someone who should not be using Windows in any way shape or form. The telemetry and lack of control? Try Linux out.

The only lockin I have remaining to windows is video games really

I actually bought my first Windows machine since 2005 a couple of weeks ago. It’s been surprisingly better than I expected although it took a bit to work through some WSL quirks with SSH.

I haven’t gotten a machine with a proper graphics card in years and I wanted one to experiment with LLMs locally, so I got a gaming PC setup.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by danielcampos93 »

Phemist wrote: post #673
willvarfar wrote: post #665

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My theory is that google went from ads in search results to ads on visited pages. By buying doubleclick etc they are suddenly incentivised to drive traffic to ad-supported websites. Almost all the interesting factual websites are not ad-monetized. The SO spam etc are all scraps of the factual websites with ads injected. If google simply deprioritized ad-supported websites the search results would be much cleaner, but…

Aha. This makes a lot of sense for Google. But the same websites show up in e.g. DDG (through Bing), as far as I know neither DDG nor Microsoft make a dime from ad-supported websites like Google would, why are these results not nuked similarly to what Kagi is doing?

Most other search engines train with a target of google or with some form of reward which is bootstrapped on google rankings. It makes Bing results implicitly have the same behavior as Google. DDG and others just use BingAPI so googles incentives pass on through.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by Etheryte »

apricot wrote: post #67

I mostly use Duckduckgo these days but fall back on Google for non-English searches because DDG is lacking in that area. Kagi users, how good is Kagi for non-English searches?

I'm currently running the free trial for Kagi and the few non-English searches I've tried have been fine. That being said, I would say they've mostly been pretty simple things to look up since I'm trying to get a feel for how well the engine suits me. If you're interested you could also try the free trial, you don't need a credit card or anything for the trial.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by __rito__ »

coconut08 wrote: post #750
__rito__ wrote: post #623

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That's why I proposed reduced searches per month. To put things into perspective: - YouTube premium is $1.30/month - Amazon Prime is $1.50/month ($0.75 if you are - Spotify premium is $1.44/month - Netflix (1080p, no-ads, 2 devices) is $6/month $5 is decent home-cooked lunch for eight days in India. Maybe Kagi's target customer base isn't India, and that's okay. But to do business in India, a company has to do, what…

you just listed a bunch of corporations that subsidise the lower subscription cost by monetizing people's data which kagi promises not to do. not only that you listed a bunch of billion and trillion dollar corporations that have money to burn and operate at much higher economy of scale. surely you don't expect a boutique small company of a few people to be able to match that

I just listed those as an end user. I am plainly talking from a consumer's perspective. Just sharing my thoughts. That's all.

I didn't list boutique companies in India. Their pricing is much lower.

You ignore the part about the lunch expense. The pricing is just too high.

The comment is not made with an argumentative spirit. It's just that I am priced out and shared my concerns.

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