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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? I remember when Google was new, and I used to use Altavista and Hotbot and those older search engines, the difference in results were like night and day, and Google's results were "wow!" Does Kagi give a similar impression as Google did then?

Maybe I'm simplifying, and I haven't used it. But it looks like you are basically paying for an anonymized (maybe, since you need an account) proxy to google. https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm... . Getting 10 year old flickr images is great, I'm sure. But probably the most relevant search results still come from google.

Can I encourage you to try it?

It took me a while to get good results with it, as I was so used to skipping the first 4-5 hits as those are always adverts.

They aren’t with Kagi.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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How well does it work for non-English languages? I just tried it out for Swedish and had issues finding relevant results, especially searching for things like restaurants or hospitals.

In my experience from Denmark it is not great at the local results. However I don’t experience many problems with the Danish language. It is mostly stuff like if you search for some generic term that exists in both English and Danish. Then you might want the local one. This does not work very well. But adding stuff like site:dk helps.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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I do, we don't log searches.

So if the feds stop by you have nothing to hand over. That sounds great, but legally dubious. Aren't you required to keep a log? Thanks for the info nonetheless. I think I'll give it a shot and maybe don't look up how to get rid of bodies - for a friend. Oh, damn, did it again.

IANAL nor close to it but is there any legal requirement in the US to keep logs avoid user activity besides access logs? I'd be surprised that the US federal law forces you to keep a full activity log so that they can take a look later for some reason.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Kagi founder here. You have my assurance this will not happen. Life is too short and I am not spending 10 years of my life building yet another ad-based search engine.

How do you feel about the name? “Kagi it” feels clunky to me. “Google it” while I’ve heard many instances of people using the phrase even when Google isn’t involved has a ring to it that’s easy to say and tools out well. Have you given thought to whet the Kagi equivalent would be?

I say ‘cellotape’ for any old tape, I say ‘cellophane’ for whatever is in the drawer. I say ‘biro’ for pens and say ‘twink’ for that white stuff.

I don’t think it really matters as long as meaning is there.

Though ‘Google’ is starting to mean ‘ad infested trash’, so maybe the word will lose favour.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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post #6

Happy customer here. Kagi is by far the best search engine there is. When I first started using Kagi a year ago or so, I compared results with Google every now and then. Now? Never. 10 bucks a month for a tool that I use multiple times every single day is more than reasonable. The results hit home virtually every time. There are variety of features to customize your searches but truthfully, I never found the need for…

I am giving it another shot. First thing I've noticed is the lack of localisation with results. If I search for "Elac 6.2 speakers amazon" it comes up with a .com link. I have to search for "Elac 6.2 speakers amazon uk" for it to go to .co.uk. This was an option with Google that I liked. *Weirdly now if I search for "elac debut 6.2 amazon" it comes up with a UK link :S

There's a dropdown at the top for the locale - you can select UK and you should get UK results.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Kagi founder here. You have my assurance this will not happen. Life is too short and I am not spending 10 years of my life building yet another ad-based search engine.

My biggest question - and the one that will drive me to subscribe right now is how "harmful" "misinformation" and "malinformation" is treated today, and how it will be in the future. I Do Not Want anything or anyone deciding what is good for me, what I should be seeing, or making it difficult for me to find things I'm searching for, regardless of the content. A search engine should be like the phone company - providi…

Surely results will always be weighted? How should it decide what to show you?

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

#698
post #682

How well does it work for non-English languages? I just tried it out for Swedish and had issues finding relevant results, especially searching for things like restaurants or hospitals.

I just tried it in german and searched for "vegan restaurant [my town]", and the results are good, comparable to Googles results.

It would be interesting where the "language barrier" drops in.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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post #482

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I don’t play the lottery, but I think this is not really correct. Playing the lottery must be an action that has a negative expected value (otherwise they’d go out of business). But if, rather than expected value, you are optimizing for “probability of having a hundred million dollars” or whatever, your options are: keep the money you would have spent on the ticket (0% chance of success) or buy the ticket (very small…

I think it's still probably better to throw all the money down on an unlikely sports bet or some crazy options trade. The lottery is particularly skewed to the house.

At least with sports betting skill can make money. Just betting on the first place team to win over the last place team for example, it won't always win, but typically will. Of course bookies know this and so the payoff isn't enough to make a living on (if you can figure out the exception and bet only on the last place teams that win you can live well). Statistics are generally well studied in sports, but if you study how a team is coached you can find cases where they have a better than statistical chance to win a game they are expected to lose. Most people betting sports either always bet for their team, or bet on statistics, so if you can exploit something else.
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