I was just evaluating Kagi earlier this week. Personally I'm still content with DuckDuckGo, but I'll have to keep this in mind. Especially if DDG keeps building silly things like yet another private browser.
Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
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#612Anyone experience how Kagi performs with non-english searches?
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In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…
> “searching … on Google, I get SO, MDM and basically a lot of SEO spam sites” I get the same in Kagi clicking your link above. Both the 1st and 3rd result is SO. 2nd result is MDM. I’m confused, so what’s different between paid Kagi and free Google search then? (Note: I’m not hating on Kagi, I’m just genuinely wanting to understand)
SO, MDM are the good results together with the blog Kagi gave in 5th place. In google you got the first two then a lot of spam and not the other good results.
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Unless you work at Kagi I am not taking that too seriously.
I don't Work at Kagi either, but I can ready their Privacy Policy: https://kagi.com/privacy > Searches are anonymous and private to you. Kagi does not log and associate searches with an account. They also double down on this in their FAQ: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/company/faqs.html#i-am-still-worr... I find their reasoning solid and choose to believe them (for now).
As you mentioned they don't track (for now).
I mean anyone can write anything into a privacy policy and who will enforce they are sticking to them really? Usually we only see what actually happens in the background when there is a breach.
For financial systems we have regular audits so rules like PCI DSS are enforced, but do we have these for search systems?
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I think the point is having stable recurring revenue. Giving you unlimited usage means on average you'll be paying more than you use, but, unless you're seriously abusing it, you can technically cost them more than you pay. Just like you can go to the gym every day - if everyone with the membership did that they would not be able to function. But it doesn't mean you can't.
It’s like “unlimited pto.” It’s a dodge. Unlimited isn’t real, especially for something like search where it’s not like I need unlimited searches. The best gyms are pay per session. Gyms are also special because people who buy memberships and never use them subsidize real gym goers who would have to pay more for 20 sessions per month.
The best gyms aren’t pay per session in my experience - and I’ve been to a lot of gyms around the world.
Sure, most gyms let you buy a day pass but compared to the monthly membership it’s very expensive.
My current gym is £40 a month which gives you access to every gym in the country as well) or £10 for a day pass just for that single gym for that single day.
The fanciest gym I’ve ever been to was the equivalent of £30 for a day pass and like £300 for a monthly membership.
Also you example of gyms being special isn’t specific to gyms, that’s also how insurance works, spread the cost out over a lot of people and everyone pays less.
I agree Unlimited PTO is a con though, just give everyone an allocation and let them choose how much they use (most will use the maximum)
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#616Might buy access for the universal summarizer alone.
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#617Kagi seems great and I’m more than willing to pay, but then my searches get literally attached to my credit card. At least Google can pretend it doesn’t know me directly.. It’s not that I am involved in shady business, but I do look up strange things from time to time. How do others feel about this? (I feel like there is a need for a private, maybe even local, search?)
Kagi recently added support for paying with crypto. Create an account with single-use email address, pay with unKYCed crypto and search only while on VPN, if you really need to search anonymously.
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Well I did not see any thanks to Brave and the content was spot on and that is all that really matters to me
My goodness, I thought you were exaggerating. I've been using ad blockers for so long, I forgot the web had this many ads. Or has it just gotten worse over time?
Well, I still remember times when 50% of google results weren’t ads.
Interestingly, Bing almost doesn’t display search ads, and the search results are becoming even better than Google. I haven’t had a need to use google for a few months now.
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Isn't that the same thing said about Lotto/scratch-offs/etc?
It's complicated. I go to Vegas and gamble sometimes, which is not all that different. I don't gamble because I expect to win money; I gamble because the experience (especially with more social games like craps) is fun to me, even when I lose. Certainly it's not fun to everyone, but roller coasters aren't fun to everyone either, and that's fine. If you only gamble or play the lottery because you genuinely think you h…
The poor people who buy a $5 ice-cream sundae every day are the ones addicted to food ... people are not making a freely reasoned choice to spend money gambling, poor people are in a vulnerable position and lottery runners exploit that with heavy advertising to ensure people are hooked on the idea they can improve things by spending money on what seems like hope.