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Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by jholman »

sodality2 wrote: post #525
jholman wrote: post #498

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That list mostly seems a bit odd. This Windows computer doesn't force reboots (though it does nag me), it hasn't tried to trick me to upgrade to 11, it isn't sending telemetry to MS, it has never forced me to sign up for a non-local account. I think it does force security updates on me, which I think is clearly pro-user , though arguably not respectful. I also decided to use Edge to access my job's shitty Outlook stu…

> it isn't sending telemetry to MS How? Literally even LTSC builds have some amounts of telemetry. Are you running some nonstandard build of Windows?

Well, maybe I'm wrong about that. It's a standard build of Home, with an hour or two invested in config maybe a decade ago when I installed it (back when it was 7, or something, before 10 existed). I spent a little time on Wireshark seeing what it was doing, but not much time, and that was a long time ago. So maybe I'm wrong. :thinking:

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by brandon272 »

SanderNL wrote: post #540

Kagi seems great and I’m more than willing to pay, but then my searches get literally attached to my credit card. At least Google can pretend it doesn’t know me directly.. It’s not that I am involved in shady business, but I do look up strange things from time to time. How do others feel about this? (I feel like there is a need for a private, maybe even local, search?)

Kagi does not log and associate searches with an account.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by dot5xdev »

vunderba wrote: post #284
sph wrote: post #92

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> 2% better Not in my experience, and what about user tracking and pervasive advertising? You don't seem to include that in your comparison.

personally I run Firefox + uBlock Origin + uBlacklist. This mean: - no ads - one click to permablock SEO spam sites from appearing in searches - minimal user tracking (not logged into a google account) Kagi would likely have a better value proposition if I did more searching on mobile though.

Firefox on Android runs uBlock Origin. But no uBlacklist. Kagi does have that built in.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by SanderNL »

brandon272 wrote: post #542
SanderNL wrote: post #540

Kagi seems great and I’m more than willing to pay, but then my searches get literally attached to my credit card. At least Google can pretend it doesn’t know me directly.. It’s not that I am involved in shady business, but I do look up strange things from time to time. How do others feel about this? (I feel like there is a need for a private, maybe even local, search?)

Kagi does not log and associate searches with an account.

Unless you work at Kagi I am not taking that too seriously.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by viraptor »

retsibsi wrote: post #520
viraptor wrote: post #74

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In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…

Is this after you've done a lot of blocking (or other customisation)? For me the top Kagi results are mostly similar to the Google ones, and when I scroll down a bit Kagi doesn't save me from articles with openings like > Time is an important part of our life and we cannot avoid it. In our daily routine, we need to know the current date or time frequently. and > Time, a measure of the passing of moments.

Not too much. I've got maybe 5 straight up SO clones blocked, but that's about it.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by retsibsi »

spencerchubb wrote: post #412
FpUser wrote: post #402

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Well I did not see any thanks to Brave and the content was spot on and that is all that really matters to me

My goodness, I thought you were exaggerating. I've been using ad blockers for so long, I forgot the web had this many ads. Or has it just gotten worse over time?

I wonder if adblockers have contributed to this. In theory we users can reward non-horrible advertisers by whitelisting their ads, but in practice we tend to block as much as possible. The remaining ad-viewing audience will be partly composed of people who are ethically opposed to adblocking or are held back by a lack of tech knowledge, but it will also be relatively insensitive to ads (both in the sense of being able to put up with a lot, and in the sense of requiring a lot to attract their attention).

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by ipaddr »

JoshuaEN wrote: post #158
viraptor wrote: post #74

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In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…

This is my experience as well. Low quality junk is often not present, and if it does show up, it's two mouse clicks to never see that domain again. Also the ability to promote high quality domains helps even more with this (though i have found one needs to be careful with pinning domains, as it can lead to irrelevant results being shown first because they have some if the same keywords).

Feels like I'm paying to do someone elses job.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by rany_ »

brandon272 wrote: post #542
SanderNL wrote: post #540

Kagi seems great and I’m more than willing to pay, but then my searches get literally attached to my credit card. At least Google can pretend it doesn’t know me directly.. It’s not that I am involved in shady business, but I do look up strange things from time to time. How do others feel about this? (I feel like there is a need for a private, maybe even local, search?)

Kagi does not log and associate searches with an account.

That still requires a leap of faith to a relatively small company. Even if true, they could always secretly activate logging without your knowledge.
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