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Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by NobodyNada »

riddley wrote: post #416

I looked into Kagi a week or so ago from a different HN link and was turned off by the Apple-focus. I've had bad experiences in the past with early adopting and regretting it because I don't use Apple products. I understand they plan to support non Apple stuff but it's never clear if that support will be first-class and it often isn't. Considering that it's a Chromium wrapper, it seems odd that they took this route.…

It sounds like you’re talking about Orion (the browser developed by Kagi) rather than the Kagi search engine, which is what this pricing update is about. The search engine is a normal website that’s not limited to any particular device or browser, and as far as I know has no location or device limits.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by bee_rider »

oaktowner wrote: post #281
dylan604 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that the same thing said about Lotto/scratch-offs/etc?

A good friend once described the lottery as "a tax on people with bad math skills" and I don't think I've played since.

I don’t play the lottery, but I think this is not really correct.

Playing the lottery must be an action that has a negative expected value (otherwise they’d go out of business). But if, rather than expected value, you are optimizing for “probability of having a hundred million dollars” or whatever, your options are: keep the money you would have spent on the ticket (0% chance of success) or buy the ticket (very small chance of success).

So, I can see why people go for it. Especially if the ticket cost won’t make an actual difference to their life circumstances, and the winning money would.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by sva_ »

carlosjobim wrote: post #364
sva_ wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 10 bucks a month for a tool that I use multiple times every single day is more than reasonable. This number really varies based on where you live, and there is no pricing model that accounts for this. I suppose it is mostly just aimed at Americans.

>This number really varies based on where you live No, it varies based on who you are. Even poor countries are full of rich people. They are usually part of the reason why their countries are poor.

Nonsense. If you live in a wealthier country with higher average income, then it will matter less who you are.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by bee_rider »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #31
mongol wrote: post #19

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Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? I remember when Google was new, and I used to use Altavista and Hotbot and those older search engines, the difference in results were like night and day, and Google's results were "wow!" Does Kagi give a similar impression as Google did then?

> Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? Encourage you to try it. I've repeated Scott Galloway's mantra that advertisement is a tax on America's poor and stupid. But I never quite clocked the cost of search ads. It might be solely due to that lack of scrolling through crud that makes Kagi seem much, much faster than Google or DuckDuckGo.

Advertising has always felt zero-sum to me. Like, I already want shoes, the ad isn’t going to wear holes in the soles of my old ones, the holes are there already, so the ad will just push me one way or another.

So, I guess it is not just a tax on the poor and stupid. Everyone has to pay, company A buys ads, company B burns an equally large pile of money to cancel it out, and we’re just back where we started.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by carlosjobim »

sva_ wrote: post #424
carlosjobim wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This number really varies based on where you live No, it varies based on who you are. Even poor countries are full of rich people. They are usually part of the reason why their countries are poor.

Nonsense. If you live in a wealthier country with higher average income, then it will matter less who you are.

I suggest you travel and see the world, it's a lot different than what you might have been told.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by pentae »

BoppreH wrote: post #153

Three years ago, I migrated from Gmail to FastMail because I was afraid of losing access to my digital life on Google's whim. Two years ago, I found out that my favorite Youtube creators were all on Nebula. One year ago, I switched my phone to LineageOS to get security updates a little longer. A month ago, I installed OpenStreetMaps because Google Maps got really bad at showing points-of-interest. And today, Kagi rem…

I would love to use Nebula but it seems to lean quite politically in one direction (as I suspect from a Canadian platform) which seems like something I don't want to support with my dollars. At least on YouTube I can find a diverse range of opinions

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by gaudystead »

meroes wrote: post #254
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? Encourage you to try it. I've repeated Scott Galloway's mantra that advertisement is a tax on America's poor and stupid. But I never quite clocked the cost of search ads. It might be solely due to that lack of scrolling through crud that makes Kagi seem much, much faster than Google or DuckDuckGo.

Even those who don’t think ads affect them are mistaken. And if you extirpate ads completely from your life the tax is your time and effort to do so. That’s one of the most toxic mantras, it even seems purposefully misguiding.

I mostly agree, but I've been blocking ads however ways I can for years now, and I'd say a few minutes of setup has saved me HOURS of dealing with ads at this point.

Plus... Building a PiHole was downright fun and easy.

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