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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by Semaphor »

bachmeier wrote: post #256
arp242 wrote: post #198

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Yeah, exactly. I looked at Kagi last week (first time I had heard of it), when the $10/month plan was "only" 1,000 searches a month and "unlimited" was $25. While I think that I'll probably stay well within 1,000 searches, I'm also not sure, and it's just not something I want to have to worry about (it's ~33/day on average and I doubt I'll ever hit it, but still...) One of the reasons I decided to skip Kagi for now.

> it's ~33/day on average and I doubt I'll ever hit it That's a bit misleading. If the search engine really is that good, you should use it more, and then all of a sudden you'll hit the cap. I probably don't search that much now but that's because it's not worth the trouble.

> If the search engine really is that good, you should use it more, and then all of a sudden you'll hit the cap.

FWIW, I searched less with Kagi, mostly because I needed fewer tries ;)

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by spencerchubb »

FpUser wrote: post #402
MatthiasPortzel wrote: post #380

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You clearly use an ad blocker. That page is over 50% ads.

Well I did not see any thanks to Brave and the content was spot on and that is all that really matters to me

My goodness, I thought you were exaggerating. I've been using ad blockers for so long, I forgot the web had this many ads. Or has it just gotten worse over time?

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by Grimburger »

viraptor wrote: post #74
mongol wrote: post #19

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Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? I remember when Google was new, and I used to use Altavista and Hotbot and those older search engines, the difference in results were like night and day, and Google's results were "wow!" Does Kagi give a similar impression as Google did then?

In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…

> it's easy to click "block this domain"

Friendly reminder that google had this feature a decade ago then removed it. Hopefully someone in the C-Suite got a few back pats for that decision.

https://searchengineland.com/google-brings-back-blocking-sit...

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by chillbill »

AussieWog93 wrote: post #370
BoppreH wrote: post #153

Three years ago, I migrated from Gmail to FastMail because I was afraid of losing access to my digital life on Google's whim. Two years ago, I found out that my favorite Youtube creators were all on Nebula. One year ago, I switched my phone to LineageOS to get security updates a little longer. A month ago, I installed OpenStreetMaps because Google Maps got really bad at showing points-of-interest. And today, Kagi rem…

>It feels really nice using products that respect me, as opposed to services that are actively hostile because of advertisers. Hot take, but IMO Windows has far more respect for the user than Linux does. Everything is far more QA'd (and designed to be QA-able) and at least tries to minimise user frustration. There are exceptions to this, like "suggestions" in the Start menu, but outside of this it's designed in a use…

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by riddley »

I looked into Kagi a week or so ago from a different HN link and was turned off by the Apple-focus. I've had bad experiences in the past with early adopting and regretting it because I don't use Apple products. I understand they plan to support non Apple stuff but it's never clear if that support will be first-class and it often isn't. Considering that it's a Chromium wrapper, it seems odd that they took this route.

It's also not clear if there are device/location limits for an account. I use a lot of devices and travel quite a bit.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by wyclif »

macNchz wrote: post #271
robocat wrote: post #79

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#4 pinned is hacker news!!! So clearly big crossover between HN fans and kagi. 8,629 Members. Top Blocked (from most blocked): pinterest.com/.co.uk/.ca/.de/.fr/.com.au/.es facebook.com foxnews.com tiktok.com quora.com w3schools.com breitbart.com dailymail.co.uk appsloveworld.com instagram.com githubplus.com geeksforgeeks.org libhunt.com twitter.com msn.com healthline.com solveforum.com 9to5answer.com alternativeto.ne…

Interesting to see reddit on the block list, I have issues with the way they’ve been operating but I do often find myself explicitly adding site:reddit.com to google searches, since it seems like one of few places online where there is still non-sponsored conversation about diverse topics. RIP old-school forums.

Note that Reddit is also on the Kagi promoted leaderboard. It seems that Reddit represents a paradox in that way.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by wyclif »

HanClinto wrote: post #238
shermozle wrote: post #224

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Oh man I blocked all these when I first started using it and haven't even thought of it since. Now I realise how much Pinterest and W3Schools not showing up has improved my life!

I've generally really loved w3schools for their tutorials -- I've been using them to teach my kids web programming and whatnot recently and generally been happy with them. Is there something I'm missing about it? Maybe it's because we have really good ad-blockers running, but their content seems fine and (generally?) not terribly "lifted" from other sites (I.E., just SEO spam). Is there a replacement for them that fi…

I agree with you about w3schools; they've improved a lot since they first started out, and cleaned up a lot of problems. I think it's just fine to use for that purpose. A lot of technologists look down their noses at w3schools and vilify them just because they consider it a content farm.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by justusthane »

riddley wrote: post #416

I looked into Kagi a week or so ago from a different HN link and was turned off by the Apple-focus. I've had bad experiences in the past with early adopting and regretting it because I don't use Apple products. I understand they plan to support non Apple stuff but it's never clear if that support will be first-class and it often isn't. Considering that it's a Chromium wrapper, it seems odd that they took this route.…

That’s just the browser though (Orion) — the main product, the search engine, has no Apple focus. I believe a significant part of why they built the browser is because Safari on iOS doesn’t have good support for third-party search engines. You shouldn’t have any such issue on Android.

The search limits are per account. As long as you’re signed in, you’ll be fine.

Edit: Also, the browser is WebKit, not Chromium. That’s why it’s Apple-only.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by wyclif »

belltaco wrote: post #248
HanClinto wrote: post #238

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I've generally really loved w3schools for their tutorials -- I've been using them to teach my kids web programming and whatnot recently and generally been happy with them. Is there something I'm missing about it? Maybe it's because we have really good ad-blockers running, but their content seems fine and (generally?) not terribly "lifted" from other sites (I.E., just SEO spam). Is there a replacement for them that fi…

I think people have been using MDN. This has some of the context https://web.archive.org/web/20110412103745/http://w3fools.co... But looks like w3schools has cleaned up their act in the past decade.

They have. It's a lot better now than when they started out. They have incrementally been improving it. The reason why it gets pushed down is because a lot of people have a natural distate for the ads and the fact that it's a content farm. But if you have good ad blocking I don't see the harm in using it as long as you understand what it is.
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