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Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by root_axis »

mypetocean wrote: post #174
crisp wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I belong to the generation that grew up using just Google so I cannot comment on quantification. The biggest difference for me is that on Kagi, the first results are always relevant instead of clutter/ads that you see on Google.

I've been around to compare them all (and used to spend countless hours doing search engine research on Fravia's "web search lores" website). Google represented a huge step up in search result quality generally. But in recent years, the quality has really slid – even while tuning results using more advanced Google features. I don't think Google cares much about search result quality these days, except insofar as they…

The results are worse because the Internet is worse.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by switch007 »

AussieWog93 wrote: post #370
BoppreH wrote: post #153

Three years ago, I migrated from Gmail to FastMail because I was afraid of losing access to my digital life on Google's whim. Two years ago, I found out that my favorite Youtube creators were all on Nebula. One year ago, I switched my phone to LineageOS to get security updates a little longer. A month ago, I installed OpenStreetMaps because Google Maps got really bad at showing points-of-interest. And today, Kagi rem…

>It feels really nice using products that respect me, as opposed to services that are actively hostile because of advertisers. Hot take, but IMO Windows has far more respect for the user than Linux does. Everything is far more QA'd (and designed to be QA-able) and at least tries to minimise user frustration. There are exceptions to this, like "suggestions" in the Start menu, but outside of this it's designed in a use…

Is this satire??

Respect for the user…

While it forces a reboot

While it tries to trick you in to upgrading to 11

While it sends huge amounts of telemetry to Microsoft

When it forces you to sign up for an non-local account

When it use dark patterns to get you to use Edge and upgrade to Windows 10

When it forces updates on Home users

…

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by hifikuno »

Zetobal wrote: post #30
ghostpepper wrote: post #20

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what do you use to hit the api? is there a good CLI tool for linux?

Not the op but I use chatblade[0] on the cli, chatgpt-next-web[1] as webgui and quivr[2] for multimodal stuff files/images/audio/video. atm everything goes over a azure openai endpoint but would love to infere an llm locally. [0] https://github.com/npiv/chatblade [1] https://github.com/Yidadaa/ChatGPT-Next-Web/ [2] https://github.com/StanGirard/quivr

Is there much difference between the Azure endpoint and the direct OpenAI endpoint?

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by CalebJohn »

prepend wrote: post #286
bachmeier wrote: post #256

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> it's ~33/day on average and I doubt I'll ever hit it That's a bit misleading. If the search engine really is that good, you should use it more, and then all of a sudden you'll hit the cap. I probably don't search that much now but that's because it's not worth the trouble.

I just don’t search that much. And I don’t want to think about how much I search. Comically, the biggest problem I have with signing up since $10 isn’t that much is that I don’t want to have to log into kagi to prove my account. I search on my phone, work computers, random terminals, etc etc. Having to userid and password to all these places disrupts my current UX of 1) open browser, 2) type search (maybe go to ddg.c…

They have a solution for that, a session link. They pass a token through a query parameter that validates to your account. You set that as the default search engine for each browser, no need to repeatedly sign in.

" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://kagi.com/search?token=

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by ibejoeb »

Kagi really is good. I blew through the 300-search plan in like 2 weeks, then upgraded to the $10/1000-search plan. I've been following them on discord. They've been pretty upfront about everything, and they meet their projects. So today I upgraded to the $25/mo Ultimate plan because I want them to succeed. DDG never did it, bing never did it, but I really think Kagi is a runner.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by pierat »

selcuka wrote: post #333
freediver wrote: post #303

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Kagi founder here. You have my assurance this will not happen. Life is too short and I am not spending 10 years of my life building yet another ad-based search engine.

I trust you will not, but what about after you exit? Anyway, you or someone else will probably start a new search engine, and we will start again. It's best to enjoy it until that happens.

I believe the founder, freediver.

In the case of Radio Shack, they too made a promise never to sell or give the data to other entities. The CEO even fought for that in bankruptcy court.

The judge deemed that the user data was worth a significant sum, and the judge screwed everyone over for the debtors.

Once you capture the data, it's a toxic but valuable asset. And there's always someone willing to go to any end and use it, regardless the promises. And it may full well be someone who has power over you, and you'd never know until it's too late.

(I've done my share of medical and sensitive queries. The really sensitive ones go through I2P or Tor in a VM. I'm not willing to give that knowledge to anyone.)

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by jackvalentine »

l72 wrote: post #312

How often do you use a general search engine and what are you searching for? For me, if it is related to my job, I am usually going straight to the docs, language forums, and sometimes stack overflow. It's only if I am looking up a specific error that I do a general search (although that is getting harder and harder as more words are ignored). Personally, I rarely search. Music related? Straight to Metal Archives. Tv…

Having been trialing Kagi for the last couple of months I do about 600-900 searches a month.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by 542458 »

switch007 wrote: post #392
AussieWog93 wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It feels really nice using products that respect me, as opposed to services that are actively hostile because of advertisers. Hot take, but IMO Windows has far more respect for the user than Linux does. Everything is far more QA'd (and designed to be QA-able) and at least tries to minimise user frustration. There are exceptions to this, like "suggestions" in the Start menu, but outside of this it's designed in a use…

Is this satire?? Respect for the user… While it forces a reboot While it tries to trick you in to upgrading to 11 While it sends huge amounts of telemetry to Microsoft When it forces you to sign up for an non-local account When it use dark patterns to get you to use Edge and upgrade to Windows 10 When it forces updates on Home users …

I agree with most everything else you’ve said, but I feel like I’m using a different windows than everyone else when they talk about “forced reboots”. This never happens to me! I’ve seen prompts, but they were always able to be delayed. Is it something that only kicks in if you go ages without manually rebooting?

At a certain point though, I’d say forcing users to install critical security updates is the user-centered option.

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