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Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by oaktowner »

dylan604 wrote: post #96
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? Encourage you to try it. I've repeated Scott Galloway's mantra that advertisement is a tax on America's poor and stupid. But I never quite clocked the cost of search ads. It might be solely due to that lack of scrolling through crud that makes Kagi seem much, much faster than Google or DuckDuckGo.

Isn't that the same thing said about Lotto/scratch-offs/etc?

A good friend once described the lottery as "a tax on people with bad math skills" and I don't think I've played since.

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Post by g_p »

bachmeier wrote: post #250

Their previous pricing really puzzled me. If you're charging that much, the only people that benefit enough to pay have big search needs, but Kagi said "we don't want your business". Who wants to monitor how many searches they've made so they don't run out before the end of the month. Or what if your kid sits down at your computer and does 25 searches for their homework.

I think their previous pricing was very much a short term reaction to Bing massively changing their pricing model for search crawl index access.

When the prices hiked with very short notice, they were potentially going to lose money on every search, until they figured out their next move. I believe at the time they said they wanted to bring unlimited back when they could make it work financially. And it's nice to see a company do what they say on that front, for a change :)

As another commenter said, it's unusual to see a company reduce prices as it becomes successful, but I think that will help to deliver even more user growth by reducing the friction to adoption, and also showing that they're true to their word even when it comes to reducing pricing.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by petepete »

clnq wrote: post #178

Is there killer feature that Kagi has or is it just a marginal improvement over Google? I’ve tried a few of my last technical Google searches and got practically identical results. So I’m wondering if there’s more. Is there $120/yr worth of more here? Also, if anyone finds it substantially better, could you give some example queries on which it does better?

Being able to blacklist sites from results is worth the entrance fee alone.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by vunderba »

sph wrote: post #92
dot5xdev wrote: post #41

I'm currently paying for Kagi. It's nice. But, so far I feel like it may only be like 2% better than Google, probably not enough to keep me long term. A lot of times the results are better on Kagi than Google, but not by much. It makes sense they're similar since Kagi uses Google's index (among others).

> 2% better Not in my experience, and what about user tracking and pervasive advertising? You don't seem to include that in your comparison.

personally I run Firefox + uBlock Origin + uBlacklist. This mean:

- no ads

- one click to permablock SEO spam sites from appearing in searches

- minimal user tracking (not logged into a google account)

Kagi would likely have a better value proposition if I did more searching on mobile though.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by muhammadusman »

james2doyle wrote: post #77

I like the statement they made on their jobs page: Core Front-end Team Passion for creating delightful and swift user interfaces. Proficiency in HTML, CSS, and _an understanding that JavaScript can be used sparingly to enhance, not create, product experiences._ Ability to prototype rapidly. Fun fact: At Kagi, we prioritize speed, to the point where *all functionalities of Kagi Search (except Stripe checkout and Maps)…

makes me wanna apply for a job there!

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Post by prepend »

bachmeier wrote: post #256
arp242 wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, exactly. I looked at Kagi last week (first time I had heard of it), when the $10/month plan was "only" 1,000 searches a month and "unlimited" was $25. While I think that I'll probably stay well within 1,000 searches, I'm also not sure, and it's just not something I want to have to worry about (it's ~33/day on average and I doubt I'll ever hit it, but still...) One of the reasons I decided to skip Kagi for now.

> it's ~33/day on average and I doubt I'll ever hit it That's a bit misleading. If the search engine really is that good, you should use it more, and then all of a sudden you'll hit the cap. I probably don't search that much now but that's because it's not worth the trouble.

I just don’t search that much.

And I don’t want to think about how much I search.

Comically, the biggest problem I have with signing up since $10 isn’t that much is that I don’t want to have to log into kagi to prove my account. I search on my phone, work computers, random terminals, etc etc. Having to userid and password to all these places disrupts my current UX of 1) open browser, 2) type search (maybe go to ddg.com first).

Changing to 1) open browser, 2) log into kagi, 3) search increases my time by 100x

I usually use the same browser, but I use incognito or fresh browsers at least once or twice a day.

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Post by dooglius »

RantyDave wrote: post #104

Aside, possibly, but didn't Kagi used to be a company that collected money for shareware authors or am I hallucinating?

From [0]

> Are you affiliated with the legendary Kagi shareware platform?

> No. That Kagi went bankrupt in an unfortunate turn of events. We liked the name and acquired it when we got the chance.

[0] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/company/faqs.html#are-you-affilia...

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Post by doublerabbit »

BoppreH wrote: post #153

Three years ago, I migrated from Gmail to FastMail because I was afraid of losing access to my digital life on Google's whim. Two years ago, I found out that my favorite Youtube creators were all on Nebula. One year ago, I switched my phone to LineageOS to get security updates a little longer. A month ago, I installed OpenStreetMaps because Google Maps got really bad at showing points-of-interest. And today, Kagi rem…

> I might ditch Windows next.

Tryout FreeBSD. Works fantastically for daily driver / desktop.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by prepend »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #136
prepend wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right and this is the reason I don’t like subscriptions. Id rather buy things. I don’t want a car subscription. I want to buy a car. I don’t want a book subscription. I want to buy a car. I don’t a compute subscription. I want to buy compute hours. Etc etc

Cars are the one thing I don't want to buy. It's not an asset. It depreciates. I'd like to pay a reasonable monthly subscription with a small fee per mile once I go over some minimum for my tier. Once autonomous vehicles are stable, I'm presuming I'll be able to hail a car in 5 or 10 mins via app. I guess the only question is what to do in full-on emergencies. For example, when the zombie apocalypse begins, or the al…

Food depreciates after you buy it. Do you buy it? Or do you lease food subscriptions.

I use a car that it’s more efficient to buy it. Not because I love buying cars. Cars are just an expense and having a fixed cost is nice.

Id love to live in a city that doesn’t require a car. Maybe one day again.

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