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Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by sshine »

runeofdoom wrote: post #59

This is going to get me to try Kagi. I've thought about it several times, enough that I did track my searches for a week. Between work, hobbies, and just life I searched (overwhelmingly DDG and Bing) over a thousand times in a week. (A evening of prep for my tabletop RPG racked up over a hundred all by itself.) I've bailed on Google - wading though the flood of SEO'd garbage just stopped being worth it. Bing and DDG…

> over a thousand times in a week

That's a lot!

I perform 500-900 searches a month.

I really enjoy Kagi's caching image search; it often lets me avoid visiting websites when I'm just looking for graphics. Going on Kagi and reading summaries and viewing cached material gives me the "I don't feel like going out" vibe, but on the Internet. One step closer to offline.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by frabcus »

ghostpepper wrote: post #20
wkat4242 wrote: post #12

Hmm most of the things I used search for are now covered by ChatGPT (for which I use the api which costs cents). I don't think web search is still important enough for me to pay for. A year ago it would have been. I originally signed up with kagi but I wasn't too impressed and then they came with the limited plans and that was it. Not sure if I'll go back now. And yeah like the article says it was priced for "silicon…

what do you use to hit the api? is there a good CLI tool for linux?

Simon Willison’s `llm` is an excellent command line client, and now has `llm chat` as well as `-c` for ongoing conversations.

https://llm.datasette.io/en/stable/

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by underdeserver »

VHRanger wrote: post #193
rjh29 wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah you sound like someone who should not be using Windows in any way shape or form. The telemetry and lack of control? Try Linux out.

The only lockin I have remaining to windows is video games really

Check out Proton.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by wkat4242 »

_nhynes wrote: post #122
ghostpepper wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what do you use to hit the api? is there a good CLI tool for linux?

I use the OpenAI playground because I'm paranoid that third party frontends will steal my API keys and I don't have enough time to audit the code or set up firewall rules.

You can set up a spending limit on the API anyway. It's pretty low risk IMO.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by somsak2 »

prepend wrote: post #100

I wish there was a way to just buy 10,000 searches as a block and charge down against it. I don’t search that much. I don’t want another monthly service fee. But I love the idea of paying for search. Id happily pay $5 for 300 searches, but don’t want to do that every month. This seems like the buffet or gym model where they want people just mindlessly paying and then not using it that much.

There's a reason most non-ad-supported, profitable SaaS businesses have switched to a subscription.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by frabcus »

wkat4242 wrote: post #75
gardenhedge wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so is that better than using the chatgpt subscription?

Much better imo and much cheaper unless you do 200 chats per day or something :P Why is it better? More integration capabilities. You're not limited to the webpage and app, you can use it anywhere you want. Not constantly kicking me out to log in again every few days (their web does this). The ability to select the model and temperature (a measure of how creative the LLM is). Also the default model seems to be much m…

I also really like that I’m learning tooling that lets me easily switch model provider later.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by adamsb6 »

mongol wrote: post #19
crisp wrote: post #6

Happy customer here. Kagi is by far the best search engine there is. When I first started using Kagi a year ago or so, I compared results with Google every now and then. Now? Never. 10 bucks a month for a tool that I use multiple times every single day is more than reasonable. The results hit home virtually every time. There are variety of features to customize your searches but truthfully, I never found the need for…

Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? I remember when Google was new, and I used to use Altavista and Hotbot and those older search engines, the difference in results were like night and day, and Google's results were "wow!" Does Kagi give a similar impression as Google did then?

I'm just a week into using it, but one of the things I've noticed is that for technical queries official docs are ranked a lot higher than random blogs and those sites that just repackage content they scraped from Stack Overflow.

I don't know if they're putting a finger on the scale, or maybe they're just doing the original Google thing of ranking sites that seem to be where the search terminates higher, but it's good.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by goda90 »

I don't see myself paying $10/month for search but I could see myself paying even more for a bundle of services that included search. Maybe a bunch of these companies that treat you like a customer instead of a product for advertisers can partner up and do a single login and subscription plan together.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by pierat »

seventytwo wrote: post #29
mongol wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? I remember when Google was new, and I used to use Altavista and Hotbot and those older search engines, the difference in results were like night and day, and Google's results were "wow!" Does Kagi give a similar impression as Google did then?

It’s not that Kagi is better at search, it’s that Kagi is cleaner and more efficient. It doesn’t do bullshit dark patterns, reward SEO, track the shit out of you, or hide valuable tools. I’m a huge fan of the lenses feature. Specifically for technical searches… I can filter for forums only or PDFs only or academic stuff only.

> It’s not that Kagi is better at search, it’s that Kagi is cleaner and more efficient. It doesn’t do bullshit dark patterns, reward SEO, track the shit out of you, or hide valuable tools.

Yet.

Google did the same originally. Super clean, just delivered whatever was searched for; no more, no less.

When Kagi gets a taste of how much money is available for tracking and profiling users. and theyll start small. And since you have to be logged in to do searches, everything is already pre-tracked. Then its only a matter of recording and selling (on the sly) to data brokers.

I used not to be this jaded. But its watching the same thing again and again is why I wait for it this time around. All good things do indeed come to an end.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by baliex »

Would love some stats in the near future of whether Google et al. are using these lists (blocked, lowered, raised, pinned) to their advantage somehow. Having said that, they have the data themselves, they just choose not to use it because it’s not in their best interests.. https://kagi.com/stats?stat=leaderboard&k=1
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