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Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

#71

This is great - I have been a happy subscriber for almost a year I think. My biggest complaint with Kagi is not their fault - it's the inability to set custom search engines on Safari (and no, I'm not interested in installing a custom browser extension).

I was skeptical about this as well but I caved and did it. It’s amazing how hard different browsers have made it to add a search engine

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

#72
post #11

I think Kagi sounds interesting but the business model is a tough one outside of niche HN types. E.g. I am interested but can't be bothered to pursue it as it seems like an unnecessary additional SAS model cost to my monthly budget. How does search quality really change my life? Entrenched behavior is tough to overcome especially ostensibly free products.

> the business model is a tough one outside of niche HN types

There are lucrative bundling opportunities.

I am waiting fora corporate product; it's notable that Google Workspace still subjects you to ads in search. That's not only a data leak. It's also a constant attention tax on your knowledge workers.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

#73
I think $5-$10 is a good price point for just the privacy aspect. As far as search, it's about 90% kagi and 10% Google if I don't like the kagi results. Maps could use some work and I'm always jumping back into Google maps.

I don't use any of the other features.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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post #19
post #6

Happy customer here. Kagi is by far the best search engine there is. When I first started using Kagi a year ago or so, I compared results with Google every now and then. Now? Never. 10 bucks a month for a tool that I use multiple times every single day is more than reasonable. The results hit home virtually every time. There are variety of features to customize your searches but truthfully, I never found the need for…

Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? I remember when Google was new, and I used to use Altavista and Hotbot and those older search engines, the difference in results were like night and day, and Google's results were "wow!" Does Kagi give a similar impression as Google did then?

In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam.

For example searching for "current time on JavaScript" on Google, I get SO, MDN, and basically a lot of SEO spam sites. Same thing on Kagi https://kagi.com/search?q=current+time+in+JavaScript&r=au&sh... ends with an actually interesting blog on position 5, link to moment.js on GH, further down posts about accuracy and about the Temporal API proposal, etc.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

#75

Hmm most of the things I used search for are now covered by ChatGPT (for which I use the api which costs cents). I don't think web search is still important enough for me to pay for. A year ago it would have been. I originally signed up with kagi but I wasn't too impressed and then they came with the limited plans and that was it. Not sure if I'll go back now. And yeah like the article says it was priced for "silicon…

so is that better than using the chatgpt subscription?

Much better imo and much cheaper unless you do 200 chats per day or something :P

Why is it better? More integration capabilities. You're not limited to the webpage and app, you can use it anywhere you want. Not constantly kicking me out to log in again every few days (their web does this). The ability to select the model and temperature (a measure of how creative the LLM is). Also the default model seems to be much more recent.

And the price. If you use it sparingly you might be paying as little as 20 cents a month instead of 20 dollars. Not exaggerating but it depends on the size of questions and responses. But really to make it cost as much as that 20$ per month with the API you really have to go hell for leather with it.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

#77
I like the statement they made on their jobs page:

Core Front-end Team

Passion for creating delightful and swift user interfaces.

Proficiency in HTML, CSS, and _an understanding that JavaScript can be used sparingly to enhance, not create, product experiences._

Ability to prototype rapidly.

Fun fact: At Kagi, we prioritize speed, to the point where *all functionalities of Kagi Search (except Stripe checkout and Maps) work perfectly without JavaScript*. We see JavaScript as a tool to enhance the UX, not create it.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

#79
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? I remember when Google was new, and I used to use Altavista and Hotbot and those older search engines, the difference in results were like night and day, and Google's results were "wow!" Does Kagi give a similar impression as Google did then?

If you evaluate Kagi make sure to play around with the "Personalized Results" settings. I find as a programmer, I love the ability to push blogs and resources I like up to the top of the list. You can check out the leaderboard to see, globally what sites get blocked or raised: https://kagi.com/stats?stat=leaderboard

#4 pinned is hacker news!!! So clearly big crossover between HN fans and kagi. 8,629 Members.

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

#80
post #34

I definitely wouldn't want to associate my entire search history with my real identity

They offer crypto payments, and you can cycle accounts through throwaway emails.

Vlad has addressed this several times; it’s a planned use case. They offer it because though they don’t keep logs they don’t expect everyone to trust that.

I can’t find the comment but he just addressed it a couple days ago here on HN.

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