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Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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Since I don't see it mentioned here I would like to suggest z-wave (protocol) and the accompanying ecosystem as an alternative. I have multiple lights, power plugs and sensors operating on z-wave being controlled by Home Assistant. None of these require me to log into a third party app or service.

I've noticed a lot of z-wave adopters seem to be shifting towards zigbee. I guess because it is closer to thread and matter? Some devices seem to be upgradeable for that too.

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

#174
Happened to me with some Kasa Smart devices I had owned for years. One day to be able to use the app I needed to create an account.

A couple of months later the same thing happend with a Mi Band smart watch. The app required to create an account.

Personally I won't be buying any smart devices ever again.

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

#175

Has anyone else noticed the proliferation of having to sign up for a service or account just to use the product that you paid for?

This is a well established trend. I dropped razer when they tried to get me to login to something to use my fucking mouse.

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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When I bought my no-brand coloured smartlight a few years ago I explicitly passed up on Philips Hue because it now seemed to require some smartphone app, and I just wanted to use a remote control. It's simpler to use, faster to use, has a lot less moving parts, and generally "always works". While there are some use cases where an app might be a bit more convenient, I'm willing to bet that if you asked people on the s…

They still do switches, what remotes are you referring to?

Probably color control?

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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"What's the worst that could happen, if we let MBA-types take over engineering?" "Even your home's light bulbs will require an Internet-connected computer account that spies on you."

I don't recall any of this short-sighted, anti-consumer nonsense when I earned my MBA. I do remember a focus on ethics and doing right by the consumer. There was a lot of corporate social responsibility stuff that I thought was going to be a drag and then it ended up being pretty informative. I suspect MBA-types often get a bad rap because pretty much everyone has had a shitty boss before and that person may have had…

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Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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post #113

"What's the worst that could happen, if we let MBA-types take over engineering?" "Even your home's light bulbs will require an Internet-connected computer account that spies on you."

I don't recall any of this short-sighted, anti-consumer nonsense when I earned my MBA. I do remember a focus on ethics and doing right by the consumer. There was a lot of corporate social responsibility stuff that I thought was going to be a drag and then it ended up being pretty informative. I suspect MBA-types often get a bad rap because pretty much everyone has had a shitty boss before and that person may have had…

Some of my favorite people have MBA degrees. "MBA" is an old stereotype, maybe unfair, especially today.

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

#179
Random, but for HomeKit users, I really like a few recent Belkin products: specifically the most recent models of smart plug and smart light switch with Thread radios. Not only do they not require an account, but they don't even have an app. (And can't be used with the existing Belkin Wemo app.) They get firmware updates directly through the Apple Home app.

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

#180

Does anyone have a recommendation for a replacement bridge that works with home assistant? It seems I’ll be throwing out the hue bridge and never buying a phillips product again.

Hue isn't really a Phillips product. Signify is the company you want to avoid.

That might be strictly true but the blowback from this is me avoiding Philips products from now on.

They should use their influence with Signify to get them to take a long term view. Right now I regret buying more expensive "Philips" light bulbs, sync boxes and other hardware.

I'm pissed off that I bought one product and they've retrospectively changed the terms of usage.

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