Vaccine specialist Peter Hotez: scientists are ‘under attack for political gain
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#3There are two political gains we should coordinate our attacks to achieve:
Better vaccines (safer, more powerful)
A more informed public regarding vaccines
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#4It's people like him who are the aggressive ones, because they play the victim and use authority to try to silence people for having alternative views.
Re: Vaccine specialist Peter Hotez: scientists are ‘under attack for political gain
#5There are two political gains we should coordinate our attacks to achieve: Better vaccines (safer, more powerful) A more informed public regarding vaccines
You cannot achieve research and educational goals by attacking others.
Re: Vaccine specialist Peter Hotez: scientists are ‘under attack for political gain
#6There are two political gains we should coordinate our attacks to achieve: Better vaccines (safer, more powerful) A more informed public regarding vaccines
I agree with this statement. Unfortunately, an ineffective (though apparently safe) vaccine got pushed at all cost through various misinformation and confused messaging, probably irreparably damaging the public's trust in vaccines in order to score some political points.
Before covid, nobody would hav considered being against childhood vaccines to be a mainstream or intellectually tenable position. Now those vaccines get lumped in people's minds with the crappy covid vaccine that was forced on everybody.
Re: Vaccine specialist Peter Hotez: scientists are ‘under attack for political gain
#7One wishes the goverment's messaging had been more informed by science and less by wishful thinking and the "needs of the economy". I still hear Atul Gawande pontificating in Summer 2020 on NPR about the "pandemic of the unvaccinated" against better knowledge, because it is known that immunity against coronaviruses is fleeting, an injected vaccine is not sterilizing and coronaviruses mutate rapidly.
If you habitually lie to people in the pursuit of your own interest you've pissed away their goodwill, and you won't ever have it again. It's a case of sleeping around and playing surprised that your wife won't have you back.
Re: Vaccine specialist Peter Hotez: scientists are ‘under attack for political gain
#8There are two political gains we should coordinate our attacks to achieve: Better vaccines (safer, more powerful) A more informed public regarding vaccines
I agree with this statement. Unfortunately, an ineffective (though apparently safe) vaccine got pushed at all cost through various misinformation and confused messaging, probably irreparably damaging the public's trust in vaccines in order to score some political points. Before covid, nobody would hav considered being against childhood vaccines to be a mainstream or intellectually tenable position. Now those vaccines…
I'm curious: as you appear to be talking about COVID vaccines, which vaccine do you believe was "ineffective (though apparently safe)", given there are a number of vaccines that were developed in different countries using different methodologies. All the articles I've seen in reputable scientific journals suggest most vaccines, at least those developed in Western countries, were effective. Pointers to articles from scientific journals would be helpful.
Re: Vaccine specialist Peter Hotez: scientists are ‘under attack for political gain
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with this statement. Unfortunately, an ineffective (though apparently safe) vaccine got pushed at all cost through various misinformation and confused messaging, probably irreparably damaging the public's trust in vaccines in order to score some political points. Before covid, nobody would hav considered being against childhood vaccines to be a mainstream or intellectually tenable position. Now those vaccines…
I'm curious: as you appear to be talking about COVID vaccines, which vaccine do you believe was "ineffective (though apparently safe)", given there are a number of vaccines that were developed in different countries using different methodologies. All the articles I've seen in reputable scientific journals suggest most vaccines, at least those developed in Western countries, were effective. Pointers to articles from s…
It's unclear whether it makes sense to engage with folks who question the effectiveness of COVID vaccines, especially if they are not trained in the medical research/sciences. merely for the practical reason that historically, these discussions/arguments aren't productive, quickly devolve into people calling each other ignorant idiots, and most of the "facts" people cite are really just strongly-held beliefs which are not totally inconsistent with the observed evidence.
Re: Vaccine specialist Peter Hotez: scientists are ‘under attack for political gain
#10It's people like him who are the aggressive ones, because they play the victim and use authority to try to silence people for having alternative views.
Ah yes, it’s not an obvious lie, it’s an “alternative view”.