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Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix

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Re: Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix

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Post by tetrisgm »

I always get so confused by the naming between Matrix and Element. I get that Element is the client, but I honestly thought that the name Matrix for the server (or is it just the standard for the protocol?) was sunset.

Great service though and hope if gets UX improvements too, as Discord and Slack keep getting more clutter.

Re: Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix

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Post by CameronNemo »

tetrisgm wrote: post #2

I always get so confused by the naming between Matrix and Element. I get that Element is the client, but I honestly thought that the name Matrix for the server (or is it just the standard for the protocol?) was sunset. Great service though and hope if gets UX improvements too, as Discord and Slack keep getting more clutter.

Maybe you are confused because the old client name, Riot, was sunset in favor of Element?

AIUI the protocol was and is called Matrix. There seems to be no intention to depart from that name.

Re: Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix

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Post by SushiHippie »

tetrisgm wrote: post #2

I always get so confused by the naming between Matrix and Element. I get that Element is the client, but I honestly thought that the name Matrix for the server (or is it just the standard for the protocol?) was sunset. Great service though and hope if gets UX improvements too, as Discord and Slack keep getting more clutter.

Element is to matrix what chrome is to http. The most used client for that protocol.

Re: Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix

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Post by hparadiz »

CameronNemo wrote: post #3
tetrisgm wrote: post #2

I always get so confused by the naming between Matrix and Element. I get that Element is the client, but I honestly thought that the name Matrix for the server (or is it just the standard for the protocol?) was sunset. Great service though and hope if gets UX improvements too, as Discord and Slack keep getting more clutter.

Maybe you are confused because the old client name, Riot, was sunset in favor of Element? AIUI the protocol was and is called Matrix. There seems to be no intention to depart from that name.

They renamed Riot to Element in the wake of the George Floyd protests in the United States. It's the same code base.

Matrix is a protocol. Synapse is the primary server implementation of Matrix written in Python.

Re: Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix

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Post by UltimateEdge »

> Therefore to use Element X, you need to be running a homeserver with Sliding Sync support, which (for now) means running a sliding-sync proxy which bolts Sliding Sync support on to existing homeservers.

I am excited to try out Element X, but I do not want to administer yet another service, namely the Sliding Sync proxy. From a practical perspective, Sliding Sync (MSC3575) is still on the level of a proposal/experiment and I wish that we would be having this conversation about Element X after it becomes usable with any spec-compliant server.

Re: Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix

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Post by Macha »

hparadiz wrote: post #5
CameronNemo wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you are confused because the old client name, Riot, was sunset in favor of Element? AIUI the protocol was and is called Matrix. There seems to be no intention to depart from that name.

They renamed Riot to Element in the wake of the George Floyd protests in the United States. It's the same code base. Matrix is a protocol. Synapse is the primary server implementation of Matrix written in Python.

Here's their blog post at a time: https://element.io/blog/the-world-is-changing/?ref=itsfoss.c...

It's worth nothing that the conflict with Riot Games over trademark rights was also a motivating factor.

Re: Matrix 2.0: The Future of Matrix

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Post by Arathorn »

hparadiz wrote: post #5
CameronNemo wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you are confused because the old client name, Riot, was sunset in favor of Element? AIUI the protocol was and is called Matrix. There seems to be no intention to depart from that name.

They renamed Riot to Element in the wake of the George Floyd protests in the United States. It's the same code base. Matrix is a protocol. Synapse is the primary server implementation of Matrix written in Python.

(We actually renamed Riot to Element because the nice people at Riot Games sent us a cease & desist :)
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