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Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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Post by lnxg33k1 »

noncoml wrote: post #7

HP was forcing me to have an account to scan on my printer using their mobile app. I voted with my money and when I needed a printer for my dad I got a Brother.

> I got a Brother.

And what's his name? :D

Jokes apart, it's doable when people still haven't bought anything, but the frustration that I wish was changed is the change in terms and conditions that affects hardware functioning at a level where it's either you selling your data or you being unable to use the hardware, hardware that could also generate e-waste if thrown away

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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Post by jorvi »

zeisch wrote: post #10

Time and time again It takes just one MBA trying to boost numbers to turn a good product into a data collection nightmare. Honestly is there any IoT brand that we can trust long-term? Maybe IKEA stuff?

There is a somewhat strangely named German brand that sells private IoT door / security cams. Forgot the name, sadly. They’re quite expensive though. My guess is they might sell private lightbulbs.

For home audio, Sonos is great. Their voice assistant is completely locally processed.

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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Post by vidarh »

baal80spam wrote: post #11
andersrs wrote: post #3

#internetofshit

Oh come on - don't you want for all your bulbs to be turned on already _before_ you get back home? It's a gamechanger!

What is a game changer is to be able to just turn off everything in the house when I leave, and know the iron will be off, along with all the lights.

It's not critically important, but the many individually small conveniences add up.

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Post by justinclift »

noncoml wrote: post #7

HP was forcing me to have an account to scan on my printer using their mobile app. I voted with my money and when I needed a printer for my dad I got a Brother.

Brother is unfortunately playing games with DRM and similar now too. :(

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Post by leononame »

jorvi wrote: post #22
zeisch wrote: post #10

Time and time again It takes just one MBA trying to boost numbers to turn a good product into a data collection nightmare. Honestly is there any IoT brand that we can trust long-term? Maybe IKEA stuff?

There is a somewhat strangely named German brand that sells private IoT door / security cams. Forgot the name, sadly. They’re quite expensive though. My guess is they might sell private lightbulbs. For home audio, Sonos is great. Their voice assistant is completely locally processed.

You might be thinking of the Homematic IP line, great products for home automation, they also have door locks etc. They are also compatible with just Homematic which doesn't use the internet (so no IoT), but rather a local gateway for controlling the devices. I don't think they have lightbulbs though. The company name is eQ-3

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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Post by thetoon »

andersrs wrote: post #3

#internetofshit

I do have real use-case, though : lights on a cable system, but long enough to light different areas (dining table AND couch, for instance). It's quite convenient to be able to control each area separately, instead of needing to turn them all on or all off.

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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Post by littlestymaar »

thetoon wrote: post #26
andersrs wrote: post #3

#internetofshit

I do have real use-case, though : lights on a cable system, but long enough to light different areas (dining table AND couch, for instance). It's quite convenient to be able to control each area separately, instead of needing to turn them all on or all off.

You probably don't need to be able to control them over the internet though…
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