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Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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I have noticed the announcement of the change too. This materially changes the product for me. I was a happy user so far, and was thinking about buying more bulbs in fact, but not anymore. Is there a way to force the company to return the money I have paid for my bulbs and hub so far? Even if it is arduous and cost me more money than I'm able to gain back I would be inclined to do it to signal my displeasure with thi…

Sue in small claims court?

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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I'm slowly moving control to a Hubitat ( https://hubitat.com/ ). But still use the Hue hub for the noisy (frequent messages) Hue bulbs. Anyone have any alternatives?

I use Home Assistant. It's open source and there is a huge community around it.

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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post #3

#internetofshit

Oh come on - don't you want for all your bulbs to be turned on already _before_ you get back home? It's a gamechanger!

I'd just like mine to turn to a brown hue when any of the bathrooms in my household are occupied.

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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Not surprising. Philips consumer electronics, or whatever is left of it anyway, is now just a licensing/branding company who earns money for putting their name brand on various Chinese OEM brands, much like consumer electronics from Nokia, Blackberry, Motorola, Braun, Blaupunkt, Grundig, AEG, Tefal, Toshiba, Hitachi, Sharp, NEC, Sanyo, etc.

Philips lighting is no longer Philips at all. They spun that off to Signify, who holds the brand name for Philips lighting.

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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Not surprising. Philips consumer electronics, or whatever is left of it anyway, is now just a licensing/branding company who earns money for putting their name brand on various Chinese OEM brands, much like consumer electronics from Nokia, Blackberry, Motorola, Braun, Blaupunkt, Grundig, AEG, Tefal, Toshiba, Hitachi, Sharp, NEC, Sanyo, etc.

I don't think that's true. Signify designs in the Netherlands and they have their own production facilities in various countries.

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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post #7

HP was forcing me to have an account to scan on my printer using their mobile app. I voted with my money and when I needed a printer for my dad I got a Brother.

It is even worse now. Not only do you need an account, but it won't scan if your ink is empty.

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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When colleagues, friends, and students say they are getting into IoT it's becoming hard for me to feign interest or excitement when this is what that industry is moving towards.

There are plenty of smart home devices that supports reasonably open protocols. This includes Hue devices (Zigbee)

The problem tends to be that all of them want to sucker you into using their apps or bridges to tie it all together.

It's entirely avoidable, but most users don't know what to look for.

Re: Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account

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post #10

Time and time again It takes just one MBA trying to boost numbers to turn a good product into a data collection nightmare. Honestly is there any IoT brand that we can trust long-term? Maybe IKEA stuff?

companies are profit first, not trust first
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