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Install Windows the Arch Linux Way

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Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way

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Post by justsomehnguy »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #28
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But then you'd use the same method as installing other OS and people would realise installing a Linux distro is easy. Of course MS already made it much harder with secureboot and "accidentally" wiping Linux installs when you install it second. Given the massive updates you immediately have to download, and the heavy push for only installing with an online account, there seems little reason to have anything beyond a m…

Meh, I don't have any love for windows, but IME newish versions seem quite well-behaved regarding Linux. Sure, they'll rewrite the UEFI boot order, but once you set it back to what you want, it leaves it alone. The one thing I absolutely hate, is the recovery partition at the end of the main C: drive. So that if you want to grow the C drive, you have to jump through some ridiculous hoops to move the recovery partitio…

It's legacy of the hard drives, you really want $MFT as close to the start of the disk as you can.

It's configurable through MDT.

Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way

#32

Post by gumballindie »

greatcircle wrote: post #13

I installed Windows 10 the other week - it kinda blew my mind how poor the install experience was. The iso contained files greater than 4GB, which breaks fat32, which I'm sure many people are still using on flash drives. So I had to use an MS cmd-line tool to split the wim files manually and edit the install files. Why doesn't the installer just use smaller archive files?

I tried installing it too, but oddly enough, it lacked drivers. Linux on the same machine runs flawlessly. I needed it for testing a new piece of software i am working on. I managed to install it after downloading a bunch of extras. Once installed it started downloading updates..and it went on and on and on. It’s such a low quality os it’s hilarious.

Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way

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Post by birdman3131 »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #28
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But then you'd use the same method as installing other OS and people would realise installing a Linux distro is easy. Of course MS already made it much harder with secureboot and "accidentally" wiping Linux installs when you install it second. Given the massive updates you immediately have to download, and the heavy push for only installing with an online account, there seems little reason to have anything beyond a m…

Meh, I don't have any love for windows, but IME newish versions seem quite well-behaved regarding Linux. Sure, they'll rewrite the UEFI boot order, but once you set it back to what you want, it leaves it alone. The one thing I absolutely hate, is the recovery partition at the end of the main C: drive. So that if you want to grow the C drive, you have to jump through some ridiculous hoops to move the recovery partitio…

Gparted moves it with ease.

Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way

#36

Post by boomboomsubban »

RedShift1 wrote: post #22
greatcircle wrote: post #13

I installed Windows 10 the other week - it kinda blew my mind how poor the install experience was. The iso contained files greater than 4GB, which breaks fat32, which I'm sure many people are still using on flash drives. So I had to use an MS cmd-line tool to split the wim files manually and edit the install files. Why doesn't the installer just use smaller archive files?

Use NTFS instead of FAT32?

Basically nothing compares to the portability of FAT based.

Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way

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Post by eru »

gumballindie wrote: post #32
greatcircle wrote: post #13

I installed Windows 10 the other week - it kinda blew my mind how poor the install experience was. The iso contained files greater than 4GB, which breaks fat32, which I'm sure many people are still using on flash drives. So I had to use an MS cmd-line tool to split the wim files manually and edit the install files. Why doesn't the installer just use smaller archive files?

I tried installing it too, but oddly enough, it lacked drivers. Linux on the same machine runs flawlessly. I needed it for testing a new piece of software i am working on. I managed to install it after downloading a bunch of extras. Once installed it started downloading updates..and it went on and on and on. It’s such a low quality os it’s hilarious.

It's not a low quality OS in general; they just haven't really optimized the use case of people installing their OS from scratch.

Every organisation, commercial or otherwise, has finite resources. And the vast majority of their users would probably prefer they spend those limited resources on fixing things with a higher impact on them.

Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way

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Post by boomboomsubban »

bogantech wrote: post #38
boomboomsubban wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically nothing compares to the portability of FAT based.

Which doesn't matter for windows installation media

Sure, but if your default is to use FAT based something needing to use something else will cause confusion.

I thought the post was saying to use NTFS for their drives normally, but I'm probably mistaken after thinking about it.

Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way

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Post by Ylpertnodi »

philwelch wrote: post #5
jpgvm wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. This will produce a fully fledged GUI Windows install. All this is doing is bypassing the GUI install in favor of manually partitioning + formatting the disks and applying the system image to the partition, then skipping the OOBE (Out of Box Experience) so it can be configured normally with just a standard local account.

There are easier ways of accomplishing this.

...suggestions/ info/ links?
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