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California orders bottled water firm to stop drawing from natural springs

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Re: California orders bottled water firm to stop drawing from natural springs

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Do bottling water actually consume a significant amount water vs like an average size farm?

I personally thing bottled water is generally pretty unnecessary and really wasteful to transport but I can’t help think the actual amount of water given people are drinking it not watering plants or showering with it is relatively small?

Re: California orders bottled water firm to stop drawing from natural springs

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Water rights are a super complicated and politically challenging issue to navigate. I don't know how it gets solved because so many laws and rules have been passed to protect water rights.

What would happen if a central authority (like say the regulators here) ignored the claim of the bottling company and then also defied the courts to protect some greater good? Is the only remedy for lawmakers to pass laws explicitly disallowing them from using the water?

Generally feels like the right legislation will take forever to get crafted and then will never catch up and if it gets through, it will get (intentionally) jammed up in courts...

Re: California orders bottled water firm to stop drawing from natural springs

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post #3

Do bottling water actually consume a significant amount water vs like an average size farm? I personally thing bottled water is generally pretty unnecessary and really wasteful to transport but I can’t help think the actual amount of water given people are drinking it not watering plants or showering with it is relatively small?

Bottling water removes it from the local water cycle. If you are watering and showering, that water stays relatively local and ends up coming back into the local water system maintaining the local water table.

If you are bottling water, you are effectively removing it from the local “water system” with no chance of it ever replenishing the source.

Irrigation wells are not ideal either, and may be comparable in terms of ground water impact as bottling plants.

These draw tremendous amounts of water. The water table drops quickly in this scenario with a slow rate of replenishment. There’s also the possibility of contaminants leaching into the aquifer when there is no hydraulic pressure to push back.

My province is an island in the middle of an ocean, so infiltration of personal wells (ie for houses) with salt water is an issue when the water table is low. There is no quick fix for this either. Personal use should trump industrial use.

Re: California orders bottled water firm to stop drawing from natural springs

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We need to stop giving money to bottled water company, so to stop them giving the means and the reason to lobby against water being a human right, it is the job of a government to make sure that the infrastructure for clean water is present, and funded through taxes, to benefit any and all, and as always fuck nestle… and the other water companies

Re: California orders bottled water firm to stop drawing from natural springs

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commercial use of california water is tiny:

https://waterdesk.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/where-calif...

With that said, "take away something that's clean and free and then sell it back to you wrapped in plastic" is pretty much late stage capitalism's primary MO.

Re: California orders bottled water firm to stop drawing from natural springs

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post #7

We need to stop giving money to bottled water company, so to stop them giving the means and the reason to lobby against water being a human right, it is the job of a government to make sure that the infrastructure for clean water is present, and funded through taxes, to benefit any and all, and as always fuck nestle… and the other water companies

> it is the job of a government to make sure that the infrastructure for clean water is present, and funded through taxes, to benefit any and all

this is a job they are failing at. I was recently shocked to see how many places in the US were under boil-water advisories. At this point I'd really like a national map of where the water is unsafe because they are everywhere and some of them go on for years while others are short term (water main breaks for example).

I found one advisory for a nearby town I frequent that had recently ended and I hadn't even been aware of it. Unless you're obsessively following the department of water/natural resources on social media for every city/state you visit you'd never know! There are bound to be many homes, businesses, even restaurants totally unaware that their water is unsafe and many more visitors to areas who don't have any clue.

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