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Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Tangent: I would love if there was a place that did car reviews that actually talked about UI. Car interfaces are such a huge part of the experience of driving now, and none of the car review channels I watch give it more than a couple sentences. If they ever mention the UI at all, it's to say whether it feels "snappy", or if it supports CarPlay, or how large the touch screen is. I want a deep dive into more of the d…

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Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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My Ford CMAX tries to update its software when I'm driving. It often attempts for a while, then fails, then loops and tries again (ad infinitum). When this happens, I am locked out of accessing navigation, music controls, etc. At least I still have knobs for climate control.

I will never buy another Ford again for reasons like this. In the past 8 years I've had an F-350 and an Expedition and they both are plagued by software issues. Paired with the impossibility of getting parts, I've been suffering without HVAC for almost two years! It's horribly uncomfortable for 8 months of the year, and downright dangerous the other 4 as the windshield will get covered in fog and frost that makes it difficult to see. Never again.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Seriously. I have zero use for a touch screen in a car. Maps? When I drive I look at... the road. If I need directions, google maps can tell me to turn left etc by voice commands.

Eh I'm anti touch screen controls, but as a motorcyclist driving in a foreign country relying on voice directions I need the visual input too. There's a big difference between audio only directions for a spaghetti junction and being able to glance at the visual and combine that with the audio. You take your eyes off the road all the time doing head checks (blind spot checks), so long as you're not staring at the map…

My Ioniq 5 (ironically, a Hyundai...) puts turn by turn directions on the HUD, if you want--eyes stay on the road, but you get full visual feedback. To me that's the best of both worlds. Downside is it only works with the on-board nav and not CarPlay/AA.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Greed? It's a pretty textbook case for regulation.

Greed is fine but ideally we would also have competition where one can vote with their wallet for a less connected old-school car.

Ideally I agree. The issue seems to be that barriers to entry are too high. There is so much regulatory capture in the automotive industry, everything is arrayed in favor of incumbents.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Reminds my of when I tried to resurrect and old DJI drone with an out of date iPad mini for a controller. I turn on drone, launch the app and try several times to take off and fail. Try one last time assuming failure and it starts to take off! But then... Just as the drone starts to drift towards me, several notifications pop up within the app/iOS preventing control and sending me into a panic. Drone hits the house s…

It might be best to turn on “do not disturb” during such a session.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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That is super badass and I'd love to have something like that. Does the factory display/controls use the canbus to do their work? How much stuff can you reasonably do through that? Do you know if it varies between manufacturers?

The problem is, there's not just one "CAN/LIN bus." There are probably a dozen different segments. One device attached to one segment can only talk to the upstream gateway and whatever peripherals are on that bus segment. Of course this isn't a problem per se, it's good design -- but it has the side effect of making it harder to hack your own car through a single point of entry other than the main OBD2 port, which is…

> it has the side effect of making it harder to hack your own car through a single point of entry other than the main OBD2 port

Thanks! Do you know by chance if the OBD2 port can talk to/control everything? Would that be a good entrypoint?

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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I'd pay to just not have one, but I'm not even sure that's possible any more. I'm really not looking forward to when I'm forced to buy a new car - few things make me more mad than smartphone tech with universally slow and terrible UX, duck-taped onto machines, let alone dangerous machines.

Seriously. I have zero use for a touch screen in a car. Maps? When I drive I look at... the road. If I need directions, google maps can tell me to turn left etc by voice commands.

...people actually use voice commands? I've not used them in any GPS for like 10+ years nor do I know anyone who has audible navigation enabled.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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I bought a Nissan this year. I paired my phone and granted access to contacts, but not messages. Every time I turn it on it shows a popup asking to grant access to my phone's messages. I decline each time, and each time it comes back. It's like they build these products with complete disregard for user choice. "We don't care that they decline, show it again until they submit". I've been a developer of products that d…

Another variation of this is the popup that only has "accept" and "remind me later buttons". It's even worse when it happens in work applications. Zoho does this. You open Zoho books, the accounting SaaS, and every X days after login, they show you a full page notice about some product/feature with options to "accept" and "remind me later". Imagine this in the middle of you rushing to create an invoice.

I'm a paying customer, so I send them an email complaining and they ask me to send them a screenshot of the exact notice. I'm currently looking for alternatives.

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