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Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by mitthrowaway2 »

ncr100 wrote: post #101
josefresco wrote: post #6

Reminds my of when I tried to resurrect and old DJI drone with an out of date iPad mini for a controller. I turn on drone, launch the app and try several times to take off and fail. Try one last time assuming failure and it starts to take off! But then... Just as the drone starts to drift towards me, several notifications pop up within the app/iOS preventing control and sending me into a panic. Drone hits the house s…

That's an awesome and horrifying story. I used to work with a software engineer who said to me he would never trust medical equipment that was computerized. It's hard to escape it these days but 20 years ago he was well aware of how many bugs even the most experienced software engineer would leave behind, and was rightly concerned that like if he needed medical support from a machine, that it could very well kill him…

Reminds me of the Therac-25: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by debugnik »

dizhn wrote: post #88
boatsie wrote: post #78

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on that note, is anyone ever voluntarily, knowingly clicking the “accept all” other than to dismiss these? Like why not just legislate that you can’t do the kind of tracking they are asking because I’m pretty sure literally nobody wants it…

The accept button is a one time deal. You click it and never hear about it again. Deny on the other hand causes the same question to come up again and again. They want you either to get fed up and accept it or accidentally accept it.

> Deny on the other hand causes the same question to come up again and again.

Not in my experience. I click deny almost everywhere, even if it takes more clicks, but rarely do I see the banners come up again in a second visit. Tracking my choice is a functional cookie after all.

I do, however, simply close the tab when the banner occupies half the window (or I use reader mode to bypass it altogether). That's just obnoxious.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by freedomben »

Almondsetat wrote: post #112
pradn wrote: post #99

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> I Give her my old iPhone 7 and use FaceTime now, with auto answer setting turned on in the accessibility. I didn't know this feature existed. Quite thoughtful!

unfortunately Apple seems to be the only consumer brand on earth which actually gives a crap about real disabled folks using their devices and making their lives better because of it

I am heavily critical of Apple for a number of different reasons, and if they weren't so heavy handed with their control then there would be third party options out there. But utlimately I very much agree and I think Apple deserves praise for that. I wish more companies would invest in it (although to some extent I concede that it is a luxury that deep-pocket companies can afford that smaller companies can't).

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

guntherhermann wrote: post #26
gwbas1c wrote: post #22

What country do they drive in MPH with the steering wheel on the right side of the car? I've heard a lot of references to "miles" in British culture, but I assumed that was habits of older people. I thought the UK was all metric by now?

Yeah, this'll be the UK. We use a mix of imperial and metric, so you'll see "300m to next service station" and also "30 mph" speed limits :). People typically weigh themselves in stone and lbs, yet the food we buy is weighed in grams

I think Rosie weighed in at 19 stone, but maybe she was Australian...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5XAXzWt5wc

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by freedomben »

dotancohen wrote: post #81
RajT88 wrote: post #55

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> I'd pay to just not have one, but I'm not even sure that's possible any more. Yeah, some stuff makes you go through the head unit on some machines. Any replacement head unit would have to implement the same controls somehow. Wealthy will be the person who makes a generic 2 DIN head unit, where you have physical buttons which you can map to various CANBus messages.

I'm working on a generic device that sends canbus messages, that can have inputs such as potentiometer, push buttons, toggle switches, and rotary encoders. My end goal is to have real hvac controls on my Tesla, but I'd like to abstract the device as much as possible. Fun project, and most of the hardware necessary is already out there.

That is super badass and I'd love to have something like that.

Does the factory display/controls use the canbus to do their work? How much stuff can you reasonably do through that? Do you know if it varies between manufacturers?

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by avar »

PopAlongKid wrote: post #93
avar wrote: post #23

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Your friend may understand environmental science, but clearly not economics. If you don't keep your car you'll sell it. You won't be moving the needle on how long it'll take to amortize that initial manufacturing cost, it'll just happen with someone else driving it. Likewise if you don't buy a new car someone else will, you're not going to move the needle on the overall supply. I don't recommend buying new cars, but…

You appear to be making an unfounded assumption that regardless of how many owners it has, any given vehicle will remain on the road the exact same number of years. If an owner decides to keep and maintain their car longer than they would have in the past, that car will stay out of the junkyard longer and therefore reduce the need to produce new cars. They will use some of the money they would have spent on a new car…

I'm not, I'm assuming it'll average out.

It's no more likely on average that the current owner is an enthusiast that's extending the usable lifetime of the vehicle than the next owner.

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Post by ralferoo »

UberFly wrote: post #86

I'm always surprised we don't see more car console "Blue Screens" reported. Weird reboots mid-drive and such.

About once every 4-5 weeks my car beeps at me whilst driving along admonishing me to say that I shouldn't be putting it in P/N while driving. Obviously, I've done no such thing. Each time about a second later, it realises its mistake and cancels the message, but it's still enough to make you take your eyes off the road to look at its stupid message.

Apparently, it's a faulty sensor on the gear lever, but it seems crazy it seems to have one sensor to detect P/N for this message and another one to actually disengage the gears for parking / neutral.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by jedberg »

My Honda software is definitely not the pinnacle of UX design, but at least they got that part right. You can't even view the popup when the car is moving. If you pull it up when you're stopped and then start moving, it goes away and is replaced with a warning about trying to read while driving.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by bad_user »

doublerabbit wrote: post #115
OkGoDoIt wrote: post #102

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Maybe the cookie tracking whether or not you responded isn’t saved if you reject cookies?

Nah. They normally have the default "allow system cookies" which is untickable. What annoys me are the "Legitimate Consent" option on all 9000 cookie vendors. There never seems to be a "No to all" button on those.

The IAB consent dialog is the worst, as it makes you consent to the entire advertising industry.

Those legitimate interests, however, are bullshit. Just because they claim it, doesn't mean it's true.

For instance, a DPA just claimed that Facebook can't claim a legitimate interest for behavioral advertising, so they'll have to ask for consent. Which will be interesting, because they won't be able to refuse service to those that decline.

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

version_five wrote: post #16
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #11

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It truly sucks that they require a pound of flesh here, you can't have this nice thing without selling your soul. There is nothing that prevents them from respecting the user and allowing repair.

Greed? It's a pretty textbook case for regulation.

Greed is fine but ideally we would also have competition where one can vote with their wallet for a less connected old-school car.
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