I cannot believe the amount of screens that have been allowed into cars. Touchscreens that beckon not only for your attention, but also your interaction are somehow fine to just put wherever in the car. It's illegal to use my phone for non hands-free calls while driving (technically, but it's not even remotely enforced) but it's okay to use my television-sized device connected to my phone because it's integrated into my dashboard? Y'know maybe we should just get rid of the windows (windows are very 17th century) in cars and replace them with cameras and touchscreens? Imagine being able to both see the road AND quickly sketch out an idea with a co-worker on the windshield during your commute!
Car showed pop-up while driving
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Re: Car showed pop-up while driving
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll continue driving my loud gas guzzling 19mpg car for as long as I can keep it going because these ultra connected new cars are abominations
The real impetus behind electric cars is vendor lock in and monitoring. It brings a clean slate to the currently robust repair market.
That's a minor reason. The major reason is profit margins. It costs a lot less to make an electric vehicle than an internal combustion vehicle because the drivetrain and control systems are so much simpler. Since Tesla made electric vehicles seem more "premium" that also set up the expectation to the buying public that electric cars should cost more. So an electric vehicle costs $9,000 to make compared to an internal combustion engine vehicle costing $14,000, but the EV sells for $60,000 while the ICE one sells for $46,000. That's also the reason why sedans, stationwagons, hatchbacks, coupes, and minivans are being phased out in favour of trucks, CUVs, and SUVs. Despite costing as much or less to manufacture, public perception allows the manufacturer to charge more.
That said, considering that most repairs are done to transmissions, fuel systems, and body panels (interior and exterior), cutting out everything but the body panels also cuts into the profits of dealership service centers. That's beginning to drive up the costs even more because the dealerships are padding the lot sales price with their markups to cover the loss that happens in the service department with EVs. People are starting to want a direct sales model like Tesla does, but that causes even more problems because direct sales cannot account for local market conditions or quick economic downturns the way dealerships can. Plus you get the problem of "When the hell am I getting my car back?" when it needs repairs or service because you have to ship your car off somewhere far away where they'll get to it as the backlog allows. A la Rivian and Tesla. Neither the customers or the manufacturers want a Rivian/Tesla repair center situation.
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#63This reminds me of a problem I have with most hardware and software: being hassled about things like updates or T&Cs when you start to use them rather than after you have used them. Ask me to do firmware updates when I try to shut a device down, not when I turn it on. Ask me to update some software when I close a document, not when I launch it to do some work. All that happens is I skip the intrusion to carry on with…
> Ask me to do firmware updates when I try to shut a device down, not when I turn it on. Ask me to update some software when I close a document, not when I launch it to do some work.
Just yesterday, I was at the grocery store and needed to check my shopping list on my phone. When I unlocked my phone, I found that it had (entirely on its own) connected to the insecure store wifi, and was downloading a 1GB+ update package. I was unable to stop this download, and it warned me that if I left wifi range it would continue the download over mobile data. Immediately upon finishing the download, the phone displayed a full-screen countdown stating that it was rebooting to install the system update.
Reluctantly, I gave up on checking my shopping list, placed my phone back into my pocket, purchased the items I could remember adding to the list, and went home. I have no idea how long the installation took, but the next time I checked my phone, it had successfully installed the update.
This is exactly the type of thing that makes me despise technology.
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#64I got this one twice already. Ironically if you choose yes, it will say "cannot view while driving" and then it goes away till the next time you start driving.
I enjoy the corporate sense of comedic timing that went into the decision to have it wait till you're driving again.
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#65I got this one twice already. Ironically if you choose yes, it will say "cannot view while driving" and then it goes away till the next time you start driving.
What a farce
And what if you disagree with it?
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#66I got this one twice already. Ironically if you choose yes, it will say "cannot view while driving" and then it goes away till the next time you start driving.
I enjoy the corporate sense of comedic timing that went into the decision to have it wait till you're driving again.
Its as if the reasoning behind it was "when the popup comes up, stop, switch to parking mode so you can read the new terms of service, then continue your trip".
The first time I got it a month ago I just left it on screen till I reached my destination and went through the terms. I got another update yesterday, i just dismissed it, will see it again tomorrow for sure.
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#67I got this one twice already. Ironically if you choose yes, it will say "cannot view while driving" and then it goes away till the next time you start driving.
What a farce And what if you disagree with it?
haven't tried that but I would assume you get locked out of bluelink connectivity.
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#68I cannot believe the amount of screens that have been allowed into cars. Touchscreens that beckon not only for your attention, but also your interaction are somehow fine to just put wherever in the car. It's illegal to use my phone for non hands-free calls while driving (technically, but it's not even remotely enforced) but it's okay to use my television-sized device connected to my phone because it's integrated into…
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#69What country do they drive in MPH with the steering wheel on the right side of the car? I've heard a lot of references to "miles" in British culture, but I assumed that was habits of older people. I thought the UK was all metric by now?
Metric in many things, and I was taught metric exclusively through school in the early 80s in England. Road signs and limits all still in miles exclusively. People still refer to each other in feet and inches although official stuff often wants cms. TVs still in inches. It's not as bad as America, because Brits have a very solid understand of metric and tend to use it whenever we can, but still needs work :(
> because Brits have a very solid understand of metric
As an American, I was taught metric in elementary school 30 years ago. It's used throughout education for science classes. I can't imagine there's many Americans who don't understand the metric system.
We just don't use it for anything outside the sciences, for whatever reason.
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#70The page struggled to load but I eventually succeeded. Here is a summary: This poster owns a recent model Hyundai car that popped up a notice about changes to their terms and conditions in the privacy policy. The car presents this pop up while the car is in drive and moving at speed, not when it is stopped/parked.
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