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Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

version_five wrote: post #8
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll continue driving my loud gas guzzling 19mpg car for as long as I can keep it going because these ultra connected new cars are abominations

The real impetus behind electric cars is vendor lock in and monitoring. It brings a clean slate to the currently robust repair market.

It truly sucks that they require a pound of flesh here, you can't have this nice thing without selling your soul. There is nothing that prevents them from respecting the user and allowing repair.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by _moof »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #5
datalus wrote: post #4

This is why I refuse to buy anything after a certain date when it comes to cars. Luckily I have the ability and resources to maintain and fix my own vehicle.

I'll continue driving my loud gas guzzling 19mpg car for as long as I can keep it going because these ultra connected new cars are abominations

A friend works in environmental science and his advice when it comes to cars and climate is to keep your car for as long as possible, regardless of gas vs. electric. Obviously YMMV but generally speaking the emissions "cost" of manufacturing and delivering the car in the first place is huge, and the way the numbers work out, it's better to amortize that over as long a time as you can than it is to frequently buy a replacement, even if it's electric.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by dontlaugh »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #5
datalus wrote: post #4

This is why I refuse to buy anything after a certain date when it comes to cars. Luckily I have the ability and resources to maintain and fix my own vehicle.

I'll continue driving my loud gas guzzling 19mpg car for as long as I can keep it going because these ultra connected new cars are abominations

There are plenty of 50-60 mpg (uk) cars around that don’t even have Bluetooth.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by version_five »

physicsguy wrote: post #10

I have a 2021 Skoda Scala that does this, it’s incredibly annoying. It tells me there is a software update, but in the same message says that it can’t do it while driving…

I rented a skoda this year and I own a VW. They share the same "infotainment" system and it's shit. I otherwise like volkswagen but I can't recommend them based on their awful computer. I joke that it must have been designed by someone who had never been in a car and didn't know what it was for, and by that standard I guess it's decent.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by wredue »

physicsguy wrote: post #10

I have a 2021 Skoda Scala that does this, it’s incredibly annoying. It tells me there is a software update, but in the same message says that it can’t do it while driving…

My 2017 silverado pops up a message telling me to keep my eyes on the road while driving cause it’s dangerous to take your eyes off the road for a long time while the truck is moving.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by version_five »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #11
version_five wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real impetus behind electric cars is vendor lock in and monitoring. It brings a clean slate to the currently robust repair market.

It truly sucks that they require a pound of flesh here, you can't have this nice thing without selling your soul. There is nothing that prevents them from respecting the user and allowing repair.

Greed? It's a pretty textbook case for regulation.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by RajT88 »

Just FYI - you can replace your head unit even on newer cars. There's a bustling aftermarket industry for this kind of stuff:

https://www.belsee.com/android-car-radio/hyundai-radio.html

This way - your data gets abused by the Chinese government instead of Hyundai!

(I kid, sort of, but these head units let you exert more control over your car, as they often ship rooted, or can be rooted)

If you DIY install the head unit, you can often completely pay for the head unit and have cash left over by selling your old head unit to someone who needs one. (Lots of people need a stock head unit, because theirs got stolen, or they bought a salvage title without a head unit, or whatever).

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by 1270018080 »

_moof wrote: post #12
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll continue driving my loud gas guzzling 19mpg car for as long as I can keep it going because these ultra connected new cars are abominations

A friend works in environmental science and his advice when it comes to cars and climate is to keep your car for as long as possible, regardless of gas vs. electric. Obviously YMMV but generally speaking the emissions "cost" of manufacturing and delivering the car in the first place is huge, and the way the numbers work out, it's better to amortize that over as long a time as you can than it is to frequently buy a re…

I like the idea that plug-in hybrids are the best choice. Battery supply is the limiting factor, so 100 plug-in hybrids that can do 50 miles of electric driving are overall better than 10 electrics that can do 500 miles.

Especially since basically 99% of drives are under 50 miles.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by mschuster91 »

hef19898 wrote: post #7
datalus wrote: post #4

This is why I refuse to buy anything after a certain date when it comes to cars. Luckily I have the ability and resources to maintain and fix my own vehicle.

Ah, some aircraft I know ran on Windows, including blue screens of death during flight. A switch Win 3.11 solved that.

There are trains still running on the German rail with their displays running Windows 95/98.

The embedded world in general is nuts. Unless absolutely necessary, nothing gets upgraded once a system works.

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