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The left talks about this all of the time, as do the middle and right. Pretending otherwise makes me question whether the author is actually trying to help or simply sell his book.
Obviously there is a big disconnect between what we think and what you do from your comment. It's fair to ask why and examine it so we can get common ground here. Like seriously, we can't be living in different realities so there must be more to it.
For the first time in history, men aren't the end-all-be-all of economic impact and I don't think this is a problem. Women have been getting the short end of the economic stick for awhile. The fact is the economy is changing and the traditional jobs that men have had in the past are no longer as high paid or necessary due to advancements in technology. Here's a perfect example:
"You have an infrastructure bill that will create jobs largely for men. Two-thirds of the jobs in the infrastructure bill will go to men: black men as much as white men, and Hispanic men a little bit more, because they’re so represented in the construction industry. Don’t hide from that fact, as the administration does when they’re challenged on it."
I think is just wrong. We shouldn't be making bills for men we should be making bills for _people_ that _need work done_. If "shovel jobs" aren't economically valuable and men want to pick up shovels and women want to pick up computer keyboards, does that mean we have some kind of crisis of the gender that happens to pick up shovels more often? I don't buy it. We have a crisis where _people_ are picking up the wrong tools if their goal is to make maximum economic output. Men should pick a lane. Either they are content with doing "shovel jobs" or they can go to school like everyone else and get a non-shovel job that pays well. We don't support the horse economy anymore other than niche areas because horses are, besides ranching or farming, useless for economic output. Why would we subsidize an entire class of jobs which don't make economic sense for the benefit of men only? That's against the market forces that run our economy and it's also against equality women have been fighting for for _generations_
The left talks about this all of the time, as do the middle and right. Pretending otherwise makes me question whether the author is actually trying to help or simply sell his book.
I'm curious, can you give examples? I hear this issue pretty loudly from the right, but not really much from the left. I know ordinary people talk about this issue, but it isn't the same as people in positions of power or influence.
A hugely shared article from 2 months ago in WaPo:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/10/christine...
Also in the Atlantic last year:
https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/10/21-r...
This is just off the top of my head, but it's easy to do a Google search.
The left talks about this all of the time, as do the middle and right. Pretending otherwise makes me question whether the author is actually trying to help or simply sell his book.
> The left talks about this all of the time,
every time I've seen leftists talk about this. its always in the form of gaslighting men into blaming themselves for their failures. as if the k-12 educational system isn't currently stacked against them.
Or - crazy idea - don't politicize mental health at all ?? I don't read the news or social media, so it's bizarre to me when someone tries to divert a basic human concern into a political agenda. Mental health is important no matter what political spectrum you're on, and treatment isn't political, it's healthcare.
"The personal is political." It's a phrase originating in second-wave feminism and continuing onwards in current cultural issues.
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> Women had less rights for a long time Women always had different kinds of rights, like expressing themselves more with emotions and clothing and cosmetics, etc., and taking care of children. Men don't have these rights. A man working in daycare is frowned upon. A man wearing eyeshadow is frowned upon, a man sending heart ♥ emoticons in WhatsApp is frowned upon, etc. It seems fair that if women claim more rights, th…
The left talks about this all of the time, as do the middle and right. Pretending otherwise makes me question whether the author is actually trying to help or simply sell his book.
The overwhelming way the left talks about it is in terms of "toxic" masculinity or through the perspective of feminism. The latter is a valid perspective, but dominates the discourse which is hardly a balanced approach.
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> Women had less rights for a long time Women always had different kinds of rights, like expressing themselves more with emotions and clothing and cosmetics, etc., and taking care of children. Men don't have these rights. A man working in daycare is frowned upon. A man wearing eyeshadow is frowned upon, a man sending heart ♥ emoticons in WhatsApp is frowned upon, etc. It seems fair that if women claim more rights, th…
I do post the growing heart and broken heart emoticons all the time on Mastodon but I can’t really talk about my gender much but I am sure people would guess it right.
Or - crazy idea - don't politicize mental health at all ?? I don't read the news or social media, so it's bizarre to me when someone tries to divert a basic human concern into a political agenda. Mental health is important no matter what political spectrum you're on, and treatment isn't political, it's healthcare.
So if you're not a conservative who's picked this up as a thing to push forward your career with, you can't "not politicize" it because once something is politicized you can't put it back in the jar.
EDIT: And if those politicians, however disingenuous, are successful in politicizing it... well doesn't that just mean it resonates with a lot of people and then the left should talk about it because it's important to people?
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> Women had less rights for a long time Women always had different kinds of rights, like expressing themselves more with emotions and clothing and cosmetics, etc., and taking care of children. Men don't have these rights. A man working in daycare is frowned upon. A man wearing eyeshadow is frowned upon, a man sending heart ♥ emoticons in WhatsApp is frowned upon, etc. It seems fair that if women claim more rights, th…
Men have the rights to do all of those things.