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What you are talking about are communities. Communities of people who help each other and cooperate, instead of competing because the goal isn't to win, it's to coexist.
Boys and Men in the United States Are Struggling. The Left Should Talk About It
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#22They immediately talk, twice!, about poorer people's wages stagnating compared with the rich, and just skate on past that to talk about men. I'm not sure I'd say i'd expect better from Jacobin, but it's still kind of weird to just let that slide past without comment. > My overall understanding of these labor market trends over the last few decades is that we’ve seen a narrowing of the gender wage gap, for the reasons…
That’s partly because of associative mating. High income people are more likely to pair up with other high income people (than they were in the past, for various reasons). This exacerbates inequality
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#23Truly we live in strange times when Jacobin is promoting a book written by a senior fellow from the Brookings Institution.
It’s a sign of how bad the problem is, that tendency we have to “drive by looking in the rear view mirror” as McLuhan said, and the reality that the left has become polarized and painted itself into a corner on issues of sex and gender.
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#24An interesting, critical review of Richard Reeves' book by Aaron Renn: https://ifstudies.org/blog/right-diagnosis-wrong-prescriptio... A couple of excerpts that summarize Renn's viewpoint: >> The directional similarity of Reeves’ recommendations to the MRA agenda shows why it won’t get much traction. The MRA vision never inspired a material number of men, and neither will Reeves. In part, this is because he wants men…
> In part, this is because he wants men to become more like women, a project that will never appeal to ordinary guys. Is it just me or does this reduce to the idea that ordinary men are stupid? Not on board with that at all.
I don't think so. It's in line with the classical definition of masculinity. What is not feminine. So nothing shocks me with that sentence.
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#25An interesting, critical review of Richard Reeves' book by Aaron Renn: https://ifstudies.org/blog/right-diagnosis-wrong-prescriptio... A couple of excerpts that summarize Renn's viewpoint: >> The directional similarity of Reeves’ recommendations to the MRA agenda shows why it won’t get much traction. The MRA vision never inspired a material number of men, and neither will Reeves. In part, this is because he wants men…
That's an odd reaction to Reeves who specifically criticizes the MRA types.
I think Renn's point is that Reeves is (perhaps unwittingly) agreeing with certain aspects of the MRA viewpoint.
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#26The left does talk about it. Ridiculous article from jacobin.
Do you have some links to articles about this topic from the left? I typically hear this from the right and have yet to hear something from the left, and I'm curious about how it's framed and understood.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/01/30/whats-the-matt...
Here's an example from earlier this year.
The primary difference from the most common ways I hear about it from the right is the lack of a "one simple trick to fix it" prescription. It is more limited to a survey of some of the proposed causes and actions.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s a sign of how bad the problem is, that tendency we have to “drive by looking in the rear view mirror” as McLuhan said, and the reality that the left has become polarized and painted itself into a corner on issues of sex and gender.
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Other topics are a lot worse but I see where you are coming from.
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> What I really want, is women to show they can overpower a society of competitive values (which is typically male), with more values of mutual help, and I mean this in the political realm, as in socialism and a society made of collectives, not a society made of owners.
Wouldn't "overpowering" those "competitive values" be using a competitive mindset and sabotage the effort for "values of mutual help"?
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> Women had less rights for a long time
Women always had different kinds of rights, like expressing themselves more with emotions and clothing and cosmetics, etc., and taking care of children. Men don't have these rights. A man working in daycare is frowned upon. A man wearing eyeshadow is frowned upon, a man sending heart ♥ emoticons in WhatsApp is frowned upon, etc. It seems fair that if women claim more rights, then men can claim some of these "soft" rights too.
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#30The left talks about this all of the time, as do the middle and right. Pretending otherwise makes me question whether the author is actually trying to help or simply sell his book.
The overwhelming way the left talks about it is in terms of "toxic" masculinity or through the perspective of feminism.
The latter is a valid perspective, but dominates the discourse which is hardly a balanced approach.