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Why We're Pulling Our Recommendation of Wyze Security Cameras

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Re: Why We're Pulling Our Recommendation of Wyze Security Cameras

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Post by joshstrange »

vorpalhex wrote: post #34
joshstrange wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reolink + Reolink NVR. Completely locally, you don't have to touch the cloud. I can access it from anywhere (after punching holes in my router for specific ports or just VPN). I ran ZoneMinder with IPCams for years before just getting the Reolink NVR (I already had mostly Reolink Cameras) and I'm still kicking myself for not doing it sooner. I have spent a grand total of zero minutes of maintenance on this NVR, I spe…

Reolink has hardcoded backdoor creds. https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/ics-advisories/icsa-21-019-...

Correct me if I’m wrong but that appears to apply to the cameras themselves which are not on my network. They plug directly into the NVR (which provides PoE) and are not exposed to the network at large.

Re: Why We're Pulling Our Recommendation of Wyze Security Cameras

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Post by t3rabytes »

Zaheer wrote: post #39
nickthegreek wrote: post #12

Anyone have a recommendation for the an affordable security cameras that would works without a cloud? I want to replace a collection of Blink cameras. Looking for doorbell cam, indoor and outdoor. Home Automation integration a plus.

Anker (Eufy) has some now. I haven't used them but if anyone has would love to hear about their experience here. https://us.eufy.com/collections/security

https://www.theverge.com/23573362/anker-eufy-security-camera... Maybe avoid Eufy...

Re: Why We're Pulling Our Recommendation of Wyze Security Cameras

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Post by criddell »

bastardoperator wrote: post #27
arwineap wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubiquiti is trustworthy. Krebs jumped the gun on that accusation and apologized https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/08/final-thoughts-on-ubiqui...

If you're cool with the NSA backdoor that got leaked yesterday. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37570407

For home security stuff? None of it will be exposed to the internet so I don't particularly care.

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

mistrial9 wrote: post #28
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #8

> The fundamental relationship between smart-home companies and their customers is founded on trust. Sadly, very few companies are trustworthy. Not all of them are evil; wanting to get into their users' data; many are just cheap and lazy. They don't want to spend money on the types of employees and process that will result in trustworthy kit. It's actually not hard to understand (less easy to forgive). The device mar…

sure, but you skipped a beat there .. you setup the context of device companies (agree btw), then skip right to a particular instance of security video use with a giant emotional content. But that usecase is "keep me safe from random unsafe other humans" .. when talking about the intentions and actions of companies you, the customer, are trying to use to keep you safe, you miss the part about trivial betrayal of trus…

> The betrayal of trust by the company you partner with, due to low-cost, convenience and attractive tech, is what a third of YNews headlines are about today.

Good point.

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Post by bbatha »

bastardoperator wrote: post #27
arwineap wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubiquiti is trustworthy. Krebs jumped the gun on that accusation and apologized https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/08/final-thoughts-on-ubiqui...

If you're cool with the NSA backdoor that got leaked yesterday. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37570407

That’s not ubiquity specific that’s all cavium based networking gear which is a substantial fraction of all networking gear. I’d be shocked if similar back doors aren’t present in other common network chips.

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Post by rolph »

pj_mukh wrote: post #31
drunner wrote: post #2

I mean, any security camera that does anything with the cloud should never make it onto a recommendation list in the first place. I'm not sure if the product exists, but something that replicates a homemade setup would be amazing. Think of a bundled camera(s) + raspberry pi + 1tb backup drive or whatever that you can only access over your own dedicated personal wireguard vpn (or tailscale, something like that), but s…

Noob question: Is it possible to stream video to a device outside your WiFi without needing a third party server in the middle? How does one do that?

yes its possible, but a few things generate friction, major one is ISP based filtering.

often you have to use port forwrding to connect, on ports not recognized for protocols your ISP filters out.

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Post by shanusmagnus »

I hate Wyze so bad. They sell this really lovely and cheap IP-enabled camera, perfect for figuring out which cat was pissing in the basement. But to activate it requires your phone number, and then they spam you, forever after, with text messages from different numbers advertising their shit. Hate hate hate.

Re: Why We're Pulling Our Recommendation of Wyze Security Cameras

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Post by dylan604 »

criddell wrote: post #43
bastardoperator wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're cool with the NSA backdoor that got leaked yesterday. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37570407

For home security stuff? None of it will be exposed to the internet so I don't particularly care.

Do you honestly believe that a now public NSA style backdoor will never be used by anyone that is not NSA? Of course goofy script kiddies will be using this to see what cameras are seeing and then do a range of things from posting embarrassing images to the web for the lulz or up to blackmailing people. that's with less than 3 seconds of thinking about what a vuln could do for non NSA types

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Post by carom »

shanusmagnus wrote: post #47

I hate Wyze so bad. They sell this really lovely and cheap IP-enabled camera, perfect for figuring out which cat was pissing in the basement. But to activate it requires your phone number, and then they spam you, forever after, with text messages from different numbers advertising their shit. Hate hate hate.

I have 6 of these and can't recall ever being texted. Just send STOP or update your preferences.

Re: Why We're Pulling Our Recommendation of Wyze Security Cameras

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Post by izacus »

arwineap wrote: post #15
dylan604 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the current verdict on Ubiquiti being trustworthy after the incidents with Krebs?

Ubiquiti is trustworthy. Krebs jumped the gun on that accusation and apologized https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/08/final-thoughts-on-ubiqui...

Isn't that like 2nd or 3rd time he did that now?!
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