The criticism of hashicorp seems childish. Why shouldn't they restrict the way in which companies make money from their inventions as they see fit? There's a lot of thoughtless entitlement among some of the attitudes being expressed in this debate.
OpenTF is now OpenTofu
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#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
AGPL is seen as a no-go by most companies. It's viewed as risky because the obligations associated with it are often unclear.
The entire Grafana LGTM stack is phenomenal, and it’s widely used.
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#193As a total outsider, what's wrong with "TF"? Doesn't a penis picture as a github symbol rather bother anyone?
There is a thing called acronym, abbreviation, or initialism copyright.
For Hashicorp's Terraform, "TF" is a well recognized abbreviation.
Hashicorp can't prohibit anyone from using "TF" in all areas, but it can argue that "OpenTF" confuses users that expect anything "TF" to mean "Terraform".
You can probably create a "OpenTF juice maker" without problem but OpenTofu especifically is in the same area as Hashicorp's Terraform, so it's better to avoid any trouble there.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
AGPL is seen as a no-go by most companies. It's viewed as risky because the obligations associated with it are often unclear.
Then they can pay for an alternative licence for their closed source project. It's a win/win/win, open source projects will still support it, so you don't get the backlash from the community, while those who just want to take will either pay or find a different project. With BSL and similar, you end up looking like the "bad guy", and the forkers look like the "good guys". With AGPL you will still look like the open s…
I assume there may be forks of the older code but I don’t actually know.
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#195Well, I guess this is more motivation to leave HCL and anything related to TF... tofu? Poor naming choice imho, searching is going to be a terrible time, wonder how confused the ChatGPTs will get? I'm allergic to soy and derivatives like tofu, so not liking this name change A CUE powered solution will be much better anyway, go straight to the APIs for definitions, no intermediate, yet still unique, (leaky) abstractio…
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
This, so much this. HashiCorp pricing just made it simply impossible to pay them. Their plan was to provide a free offering that was very good, get companies hooked, and then charge our the nose for any enterprisy feature. The problem was how they charged, which they don't reveal until after you contact sales. You could build a solution using the free offering that works very well. Then years later want something pai…
> 1 million a year buys a lot of development and operational Not all that much. At a global enterprise, for instance, that buys a couple senior systems engineers with SDLC experience after you include all the per-employee overhead that doubles their cost beyond their comp. Terraform saves the enterprise far more than that in overhead. If Terraform provides even 10% lift across 1000 seats, that's many times its cost.…
In many places in europe you can hire a team of ~10 engineers already fully loaded for $1 million a year, or like 2 seniors and 4 midlevels or any combo like this. This is based off of 1st hand experience hiring for these salaries.
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#197Well, I guess this is more motivation to leave HCL and anything related to TF... tofu? Poor naming choice imho, searching is going to be a terrible time, wonder how confused the ChatGPTs will get? I'm allergic to soy and derivatives like tofu, so not liking this name change A CUE powered solution will be much better anyway, go straight to the APIs for definitions, no intermediate, yet still unique, (leaky) abstractio…
Do you really think no-one has tried that?
The API definitions (even the good ones, like Azure) do not contain sufficient information to be able to build a declarative tool. Google seem to view their internal annotations about what is mutable or not as some kind of competitive advantage (bizarre). The AWS API is wildly poorly specified for building anything except 1-1 API wrappers. (Cloud Control improves it, but covers few important resources).
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#198Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu
#199Instead of the food my 12 year old mind goes directly to “Open to eff you”