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Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by thefurdrake »

CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #142
Method-X wrote: post #127

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The word for it is "extrajudicial killing."

That's not a word.

Always fun to have someone try to be a pedant when they don't actually know the meaning of a word.

It's fun that this one is "word".

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/word > Definition 2 a/b/c are clearly the contextually-relevant definitions

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/word > Second most popular synonym: "phrase".

Next time when you try to be a pedant, come prepared. Not only is it not wanted, you're not even correct.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by thefurdrake »

dirtyid wrote: post #154
pedrosorio wrote: post #135

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Replace Western with Russian and foreign with American and you have Snowden. The asymmetry you imply does not exist.

And Pompeo wanted to whack snowden. The asymmetry is west shelters much more foreign dissidents/criminals, and has more opportunities to weaponize them for foreign policy. Frequently it's deliberate, sometimes it's just happenstance of high immigration. But ultimately, west won't be able to stay clean of diasphora foreign policy drama, especially ones they actively cultivate or fail to suppress. Old legal excuse of,…

> The asymmetry is west shelters much more foreign dissidents/criminals, and has more opportunities to weaponize them for foreign policy

[citation needed]

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by rg111 »

fzil wrote: post #210
inSenCite wrote: post #179

Trudeau obviously grasping at the chance of winning over some Sikh votes. Whether the allegations are credible or not is irrelevant to him, and likely will not be found out until after elections anyway. On the other hand, Facebook is much more likely to err on the side of India given the much larger population and associated $ potential and THE BILL. Canada is not exactly an espionage expert relative to places like I…

Sikhs make up <2% of Canada. Even less when you account for that fact that not all of them are of age to vote. Do you really think a PM of Canada would throw away relationship with a potentially large trading partner for a few thousand votes?

This not uniformly distributed.

And identity politics can and do win you seats in local councils, senates, congresses, and so on.

This is the very common mistake by identity politics deniers. They always say that population is x% where x not uniformly distributed over the country and are concentrated in some parts, and a party, by appeasing the can and do win seats in democratic elections.

I have seen this first hand in multiple places.

Edit: I just learned that Trudeau's party is in power because of the support of a Shikh party. His party was 10 seats short of majority needed to form government. A Shikh party provided the support which put him in power.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by CrzyLngPwd »

thefurdrake wrote: post #251
CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not a word.

Always fun to have someone try to be a pedant when they don't actually know the meaning of a word. It's fun that this one is "word". https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/word > Definition 2 a/b/c are clearly the contextually-relevant definitions https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/word > Second most popular synonym: "phrase". Next time when you try to be a pedant, come prepared. Not only is it not wanted,…

If that's your idea of fun you need to get out (more).

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by thefurdrake »

CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #254
thefurdrake wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Always fun to have someone try to be a pedant when they don't actually know the meaning of a word. It's fun that this one is "word". https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/word > Definition 2 a/b/c are clearly the contextually-relevant definitions https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/word > Second most popular synonym: "phrase". Next time when you try to be a pedant, come prepared. Not only is it not wanted,…

If that's your idea of fun you need to get out (more).

Great way to concede the point by failing to address my response.

:)

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by mthoms »

yumraj wrote: post #229
mthoms wrote: post #223

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This is overt racism.

Excuse me.. Really? How? Pray tell. Read the Wikipedia link. There has been known and established link between Khalistani elements in Canada and Punjabi/Sikh organized crime.

Blaming it on criminal ties simply because the ethnicity of the victim? Are you serious? When is that okay?

And for your information, I live in Vancouver. I'm aware of the organized crime issue here. But not every Sikh is a terrorist or criminal (I can't believe I have to say that).

Suggesting they are criminally involved just because of their race is textbook racism.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by Kerb_ »

CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #254
thefurdrake wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Always fun to have someone try to be a pedant when they don't actually know the meaning of a word. It's fun that this one is "word". https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/word > Definition 2 a/b/c are clearly the contextually-relevant definitions https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/word > Second most popular synonym: "phrase". Next time when you try to be a pedant, come prepared. Not only is it not wanted,…

If that's your idea of fun you need to get out (more).

I mean, was your pedantry that they are responding to fun? I found theirs a bit more amusing as well.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by eureka-belief »

senkora wrote: post #72
lainga wrote: post #12

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> This is a line even the Soviets and Chinese respected Partly because they were on the other side. It's different here (if true) because, as the BBC points out - "Western powers would have to make a choice between backing Ottawa or New Delhi, a choice between supporting the principle of the rule of law or the hard necessity of realpolitik." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66856568

India isn’t really an ally of the west. For example, it was historically non-aligned but on friendly terms with the Soviet Union: > In 1954, the United States made Pakistan a Central Treaty Organization (CENTO) ally. As a result, India cultivated strategic and military relations with the Soviet Union to counter Pakistan–United States relations.[2] In 1961, India became a founding member of the Non-Aligned Movement to…

True that India isn’t strictly an ally of the west. And even now India is importing oil from Russia. Though, I’d say much of these differences with the west are not ideological as much as the result of India applying realpolitik to their geographic circumstances. And after being screwed by the British for centuries, India doesn’t feel like owes any favors to the west. If India were located in Europe, without needing to deal with Pakistan and China, I think they’d have a lot in common with other European nations. I know that’s a bold claim. At least on paper, Indias government was formed based on principle of equality and self-determination. Obviously, populism and corruption have caused the government to veer slightly off course, but India is nothing like countries like Russia or China, at least.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by flerovium »

ulchar wrote: post #214
mabbo wrote: post #207

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Really, Khadr? The guy was brainwashed as a child by his lunatic father and dragged to Afghanistan to resist American's invasion. There was some kind of firefight, he nearly died, and the Americans decided that since he survived he was guilty of all the crimes. He was 15. A kid. A child soldier, by international law. He was held for a decade in Guantanamo Bay, a US military facility, without any real trial. The US al…

Never said that Khadr should've been extradited, he shouldn't have at all and I support the Canadian government decision. But the claims of the Indian government against Nijjar are also dubious which points to the likelihood that any diplomatic transfer was a non-starter. Of course, the difference here was that the USA attempted a diplomatic process and did not execute a citizen on Canadian soil.

So India couldn't extradite him. There are many people North Korea would like to punish but can't extradite.

You seem to be implying that if India couldn't extradite him, they should kill him.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by hollerith »

eureka-belief wrote: post #258
senkora wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

India isn’t really an ally of the west. For example, it was historically non-aligned but on friendly terms with the Soviet Union: > In 1954, the United States made Pakistan a Central Treaty Organization (CENTO) ally. As a result, India cultivated strategic and military relations with the Soviet Union to counter Pakistan–United States relations.[2] In 1961, India became a founding member of the Non-Aligned Movement to…

True that India isn’t strictly an ally of the west. And even now India is importing oil from Russia. Though, I’d say much of these differences with the west are not ideological as much as the result of India applying realpolitik to their geographic circumstances. And after being screwed by the British for centuries, India doesn’t feel like owes any favors to the west. If India were located in Europe, without needing…

>If India were located in Europe, without needing to deal with Pakistan and China

Because of the Himalayas, China can't interfere with India any more than it could if India were in Europe. (Yes, I know about the recent deadly skirmishes on their shared border. They involved small numbers of soldiers and even getting large numbers of soldiers to the border would be arduous, let alone anything like a tank.)

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