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Re: Ask HN: What low code platforms are worth using?

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I disagree - Would you build a AAA Game without using a Games Engine or a Financial Forecast in code instead of Excel? that would be crazy.

My company built an amazing No-Code platform www.onedb.online that can build business apps such as ERP & CRM at least 15 times faster than traditional code and at least 99% of what you need without code and you can easily plug-in code components (SQL, Javascript, CSS) when required.

Re: Ask HN: What low code platforms are worth using?

#84

I disagree - Would you build a AAA Game without using a Games Engine or a Financial Forecast in code instead of Excel? that would be crazy. My company built an amazing No-Code platform www.onedb.online that can build business apps such as ERP & CRM at least 15 times faster than traditional code and at least 99% of what you need without code and you can easily plug-in code components (SQL, Javascript, CSS) when requir…

Personally I would avoid the 'amazing' rhetoric and let the customers decide that. (Not having a go, just suspect that it's detrimental).

Also FYI I gave up waiting for this to load at 30 seconds. - 4s: first spinner - 15s: second spinner - 30s: some kind of top bar - 35s: nothing seemed to be happening. Tried in Chrome, Chrome Incog, Edge

Re: Ask HN: What low code platforms are worth using?

#86

I disagree - Would you build a AAA Game without using a Games Engine or a Financial Forecast in code instead of Excel? that would be crazy. My company built an amazing No-Code platform www.onedb.online that can build business apps such as ERP & CRM at least 15 times faster than traditional code and at least 99% of what you need without code and you can easily plug-in code components (SQL, Javascript, CSS) when requir…

Personally I would avoid the 'amazing' rhetoric and let the customers decide that. (Not having a go, just suspect that it's detrimental). Also FYI I gave up waiting for this to load at 30 seconds. - 4s: first spinner - 15s: second spinner - 30s: some kind of top bar - 35s: nothing seemed to be happening. Tried in Chrome, Chrome Incog, Edge

I was about to reply same before solving 99% of world problem. Please look into why your site is taking this much time to load...

Re: Ask HN: What low code platforms are worth using?

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah code is not a bad thing. It constrains us and make the hard things about designing and building non trivial systems up front. It may seem like a good idea to postpone such considerations. And it might even be in some situations. But complexity will still bite you in the ass even if you sweep it under the carpet and tell people not to worry about it (for now). But if people say you can't replace a railroad consis…

> Yeah code is not a bad thing I think code is a great thing, just that the "everything looks like a nail" argument goes both ways

Low code is great if you don't know programming. For more complex systems you want developers who understand the system deeper than "box connects to other box makes things go brr", and if you have developers who know what they're doing they'll make a better system faster with actual code.

Low code is just a GUI on top of some library. I'd rather just write the code and call the library functions directly than mess around with boxes that do nothing other than limit my options.

Re: Ask HN: What low code platforms are worth using?

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> My group writes .NET code If you are clever enough, your current ecosystem can be bent into a "low" code arrangement. We pushed most of our logic into SQL queries over time. Domain experts write "code" these days. This was only possible after years of refining our schema relative to our customers and problems. Learning what should be configurable and what should not. To do this effectively usually requires that you…

Would you mind elaborating on “pushing logic into SQL queries”? Also how “SQL databases are a superpower”? I suppose one still needs a non trivial dev infrastructure and dev skills to make the SQL a superpower:-|

I'm not them but I'll translate for you. They had a shitty app that did dumb stuff that SQL can do for them. Someone finally figured out how SQL works and wrote some proper queries and now they think they're geniuses.

Re: Ask HN: What low code platforms are worth using?

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No code has its role, there are many simple things it can make easier. For most non trivial systems, no code will get you 80%-90% to a solution and the last 20% of your solution will be extremely difficult, complex, or impossible to deliver in any maintainable way. Developers are hostile to these types of solutions specifically because once you go past basic CRUD your no code solutions make everything so much harder…

Not at all a sales person, but... I think that a lot of the problems that general wisdom thinks are implicit to no/low code are so prevalent precisely because the barrier to entry is so low. You get a lot of people who have never programmed anything who can basically put together something that almost works by tweaking tutorials and googling around. But where they get stuck is lacking the programmer's mentality - of…

Any no/low code problem trivial enough to be hacked together by a non-programmer can be completely replaced with code in extremely short order by someone who knows what they're doing. The nightmare scenario, where that principle breaks down, happens when you hire people specifically to work on your low/no-code codebase.

As a rule of thumb, the only kind of job posting that should mention a low/no code solution is one for a software developer hired to migrate your current solution to real code.

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