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YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Post by calibas »

nimos wrote: post #30

The Monetization Window is the new Overton Window. I think people underestimate how much Youtube's monetization policy influences what popular creators put in videos. Because it's not just the money - it also effects how videos are promoted by the algorithm.

It's not just video content either, Google's been fucking up the whole Internet for a while now.

Do you want a high search ranking for your site? It's far more important to appease Google's algorithms than provide quality content your users enjoy.

Want to make money off Google Ads? You need to be very careful about what you put on your site. They sent me a threatening letter once because I promoted World Naked Gardening Day.

Running a "successful" website nowadays revolves around keeping Google happy. If you fail to do that, they can destroy your business.

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Post by mortureb »

CapricornNoble wrote: post #614
mortureb wrote: post #327

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It’s pretty simple. If you have to be masculine and assertive in any way now you have to cowtow to the insane right because the left is a hostile space for regular men. The right welcomes you with open arms and basically shields you from any consequences for past wrongs. There is no middle. You can get away with just about anything on the right now with no repercussions. You can downvote this all you want but you kno…

I'd argue that Aba & Preach do a good job of staying in the middle, for an example of YT content creators. They tend to shit on red pill extremists and champagne socialists with equal aplomb.

Just listened to them and it’s not bad. Who else?

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Post by Slava_Propanei »

madeofpalk wrote: post #291
mrtksn wrote: post #180

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I wonder if YouTube takes into consideration local values when doing this. For example, nudity and other controversial stuff can have much different standards on what's acceptable and what's not. If this is not baked into the formula, then it's likely that YouTube is pushing cultures to align with SV or some managers in Google. I'm not going to defend Russel Brand, just making a point about YT's impact. This time aro…

Youtube is not a utility.

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Post by pixl97 »

BlargMcLarg wrote: post #656
pixl97 wrote: post #630

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Suddenly this is the thread that has snapped for you and said this is wrong? For most of modern history an accusation was all that was needed to have you removed from your job. The cops showing up at your office and just 'questioning' your behavior around minors without even making accusations is generally enough to ensure you don't come back the next day. It's one of the reasons I don't post as little information ab…

>Suddenly this is the thread that has snapped for you and said this is wrong? How about we take our own advice, stop making assumptions and "be nice" as you put it, hm? >The cops showing up at your office and just 'questioning' your behavior around minors without even making accusations is generally enough to ensure you don't come back the next day. I'd like you to honestly think deeply about this a few times. Has th…

>Why do some countries or areas feel far more comfortable with leaving children around with men,

I cannot answer for other countries, but for the US I can answer that we've allowed the "boys will be boys" excuse for pretty much ever when it comes to sexual misconduct. I've made it a point in my life to be a person available to talk to when other people need that. Maybe I've just had bad luck in who has opened up to me, but when a very large percentage of the women I've talked with have talked about sexual misconduct, sexual abuse, or outright rape against them that I realize we have a massive problem in this country. Even worse is I've talked to people decades later that explained confusing things that occurred when I was a teenager and went to church. When you find out the church covers up sexual assault, convinces people not to call the police, and pays for the pastor to move elsewhere you get a grim view on the people in power. It turns out when you cover up for evil behavior, you have to be suspect of all those around you.

If you don't want people to be destroyed by allegations, you need a system that actually investigates discretely, and prosecutes those with evidence against them. In the US we can't even process the back log of rape kits we have around.

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Post by vuln »

shadowtree wrote: post #617

Huge opportunity for X to continue to become the safe haven for "cancelled" content. Tucker Carlson, etc.

Isn’t Brand on Rumble? He already does live shows on Rumble. Less followers, less money I assume but doesn’t seem like he’ll be kicked off Rumble anytime soon.

https://rumble.com/c/russellbrand

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Post by aCoreyJ »

TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #599

Let’s go down the list of rappers and professional athletes and see how much harm they’ve caused women. Once again, another coincidence in which side of the political aisle gets censored.

I don't get it, do they have monetized YouTube channels?

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Post by pixl97 »

Nursie wrote: post #679
marcell wrote: post #621

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If the policy is “Fuck you, your tie sucks”, then that should be written into the policy. YouTube’s policy does not say “Fuck your, your tie sucks.” They say they remove people for harm to users. But there are many creators who harm users who are not being removed. So that is not the policy. They can easily fixing this by changing the policy to “fuck you, your tie sucks” or “we ban for any reason at our discretion.”…

> They can easily fixing this by changing the policy to ... “we ban for any reason at our discretion.” What makes you think that isn't already in their ToS?

Pretty much a staple of US law is "We withhold the right to refuse service to anyone". There are only a few preconditions (civil rights for example) that are exceptions to this rule.

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Post by vuln »

wmf wrote: post #426
0xDEF wrote: post #397

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When people today talk about Elon Musk's political views they mean his sudden right-wing radicalization in 2022 that happened exactly when he was tipped off about sexual harassment allegations coming his way.

Nah, it was caused by his kid turning trans.

Yup it was the ultimate _red pill_. There have been many such cases none ever so public.

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Post by kumarvvr »

gdulli wrote: post #32
kumarvvr wrote: post #13

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> So, this is literally, "an allegation is enough" scenario. If you're a private entity without the investigative powers of law enforcement, then public knowledge and your best judgement better be enough, because they're all you have. > Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty" ? That's a standard of the legal system. Private parties have lesser powers of punishment and investigation, so correspondingly a l…

> then public knowledge and your best judgement better be enough, because they're all you have

In that case, this should be made clear in their terms of service, that in case they come to a conclusion based on "public knowledge" and their own "judgement", the user can be de-platformed without recourse to any appeal.

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Post by Slava_Propanei »

georgespencer wrote: post #709
dmix wrote: post #684

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There’s been so, so many of these accusations in the past decade that turned out to be far less than the initial reporting or flat out wrong. Your deference to the professionalism of journalism is about a decade or two out of touch with modern reality. It is only rational to wait for proper processes play out. It’s sad that such a thing has become politicized where one has to feel the need to tar and feather someone…

> There’s been so, so many of these accusations in the past decade that turned out to be far less than the initial reporting or flat out wrong. This is an illusory rebuttal. You seem to be insinuating that history shows there to be a significant chance that these accusations will be "far less" than the initial reporting "or flat out wrong", without providing any evidence in support of your claim. > Your deference to…

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