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We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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Re: We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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Phones need to be standardized the same way desktop pc where standardized.

Our world is running out of ressources at fast speed and this habit of throwing phones away (iPhones and Android phones or anything else) without real options to fix them is creating a huge pile of waste which are furthermore highly toxic.

According to IEA, demand for oil should peak in 2030, which is a lie, considering India still have (and want) to catch up with Chinese economic devellopement (India GDP: $3.34 Trillons, China GDP: $19.34 Trillons), for the same population. Demand can't fall in that condition.

But production will...

Peak production for conventional oil happened in 2006, resulting in an all time high of oil price in july or august 2008 at $148. And then output started to fall after a few year of stabilisation of the production.

Shale oil production in the US, oil sands in alberta, took over the increasingly disapearring share of the conventionnal oil.

What will happen in 2030 is that the cumulative production of all sources of oil will decline, inexorably, for 30 to 40 years, until the energetic cost to extract it will be above its energetic value. It would may be then extracted for its value as raw material, at very high monetary cost. Or with the help of another energy source, such nuclear (it seems to me that Saoudi Arabia has asked access to civil nuclear technology), but also at very high monetary cost.

In fact, it's not completelly a lie from IEA, in a sense that demand will be forced to decline... But it's far less worrying to say we will need less bread in the future than say we will not have enough of it...

Throwing things away as we do will appear to us, probably in our own live time, as the must stupid thing mankind has ever done in its 200.000 years of existence.

Re: We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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There is also another issue why Apple is restricting "part harvesting": theft. iCloud locks or Samsung's KNOX lock entered the field because the manufacturers were pretty pissed that customers using their devices in public became a target for "enterprising" robbers who'd factory-wipe the devices and flip them to a pawn shop or second-hand store in a matter of half an hour. When people are afraid to use your products…

Can you link me to any public communication from Apple making this claim?

Re: We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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I’m sorry that happened to you. IMHO this is a huge problem. A thief just wants to steal your phone. To ensure the value of the device, it’s now common to force you to provide your passcode. This gives access to all your data, can be used to reset your Apple ID password, lock you out of your account, and erase and lock all your other devices. This problem never existed before, and it’s significantly worse! Like, way…

It sounds like the solution for your problem is not to use an Apple phone. Use an Android rom that gives you significantly more power and granularity.

I'm unsure how your device being Android means you won't hand over the keys when prompted at gunpoint. Can you explain your line of thought?

Re: We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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It sounds like the solution for your problem is not to use an Apple phone. Use an Android rom that gives you significantly more power and granularity.

I'm unsure how your device being Android means you won't hand over the keys when prompted at gunpoint. Can you explain your line of thought?

It's much easier on Android to setup all kinds of alternatives. You could setup a 'dummy' key that if entered would alert the police, for example. Failing that, you can setup different keys for different services with different levels of access, as well as have third party equivalents to 'Find my iPhone'.

Not being in the walled garden provides a lot of freedom and flexibility to setup contingencies.

Re: We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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AIUI, these restrictions are primarily intended to curb the market for stolen iphones? I think Apple has taken it too far here, but I also think it is disingenuous to have this discourse without at least mentioning the other considerations. There is no "right" answer, only tradeoffs...

As far as I can tell, Apple has never made that claim.

Re: We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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What? How is someone who snatched your phone out of your hand and ran away going to know your password and authentication information needed to authorize a parts replacement?

My comment is in response to your “yes this replacement is desired.” button in a world where parts can be harvested from a phone and used in a different one. My understanding of what you mean is if phone A were stolen and parts removed from it and installed in phone B then phone B would get the “yes this replacement is desired.” button instead of whatever is in place now. My feeling is this button would be no differe…

I thought person A/ex-phone A would get the "someone is using your old battery, allow?" via iCloud account

Re: We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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I just don’t understand how repairing a phone got conflated with liberty in these conversations. Don’t like the product don’t buy the product.

>Don’t like the product don’t buy the product. This has never worked, because in a single product, a myriad of concerns are bundled together. Just like how people are complex, and you can't simply avoid toxic people. Or you can't just uproot and go live in a better place. Individuals have much less liberty than the "free market" and "vote with your wallet" sentiments imply.

There are plenty of other products you can buy on the market that don’t lock down everything on a per part basis like Apple does. What are you even talking about.

Re: We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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Computing is something I've loved ever since I was first introduced to it, something I love, something that I always dreamed would empower every person to be connected to everyone else and have a better life, to help society become a fairer place.

When I first hand-etched my own PCB to attach LEDs to my Commodore 64, controlled by software that I'd written, it was amazing.

When I first used a 300 baud modem to connect to a BBS and communicate with people far away, it was like a whole world had opened up. The opportunities were endless.

Now Apple with their subscriptions, artificially crippled devices so they can force the cloud upon people and monetize personal data. Artificially unrepairable devices. Removing ports to sell dongles and wireless chargers. Removing features all the time. Creating devices that are not interoperable with other devices, because that makes their victims ever more locked in and unable to resist next year's even more efficient milking machine.

So much unnecessary bullshit, and more and more every year.

In the old days computers would improve each year. They wouldn't remove stuff. This years device was like last years, but with added features. If you were thinking about upgrading, you didn't have to make a spreadsheet for yourself with what you're gaining this year and what you're losing, and how much the monthly subscription will be. Buying new tech was an easy decision.

Nobody would have tolerated any of this in the 1990's or 2000's, so why now? Why are people so resigned to not truly owning anything? How can they seriously claim that any of this is actually good?

Apple championed non-replaceable batteries, no headphone sockets, locked bootloaders, had to be forced to use USBC. Now they're championing remote hardware pairing. Every time there's the barest of paper-thin reason for it, always more lock-in, and of course no way for the consumer to opt-out of such bullshit.

Just the worst most consumer-hostile company.

But every time they come up with the latest new consumer-hostile bullshit, for some reason so many cult-of-Apple zombies come out of the woodwork, to parrot the flimsiest of pretext for why it's actually a good thing and why they're happy they're getting milked even more this time, and everyone who doesn't want to be milked is actually in the wrong or just cheap or poor or something.

They wear their special Apple release day dunce cap and line up at midnight at the Apple store to be milked for the latest phone that's half a step forward and half a step back, with an iCloud subscription tacked on.

It's so infuriating.

But the most infuriating part is that other companies invariably follow suit once the dust has settled and the latest anti-consumer behavior has been normalized, because every step is more and more lucrative, and a far easier path to profit-creating than real innovation.

Line must go up, and they're all out of ideas, so why not create subscriptions where none existed before and stop repairs so people have to buy new phones? The zombies won't care because they're just dying to put their special release-day dunce cap on again. This one has magnesium!

Somehow USBC is revolutionary because people can now save videos to external storage. What? My Galaxy Note from 2012 had microSD.

Soon will come the subscription-based hardware with remote hardware disabling. A subscription for access to particular phone features. Mark my words.

I hate Apple customers for their ignorance and shortsightedness in enabling Apple in their quest to ruin computing. It would be fine if they were just ruining it for themselves, but they're not. The trickle-down from Apple is ruining the whole industry.

Of course, I'm not excusing the other companies for jumping on the enshittified bandwagon, but Apple is the only company with zombies who will accept whatever latest bullshit they can dream up, without ever dreaming of switching sides.

I hate Apple for what they're doing to the computing landscape, and I don't care if their M2 is better on power per watt or whatever. I'd plug in and use a device I actually own.

I wish Apple would just concentrate on creating the best product they can make. Even if it had the bullshit but you could opt-out.

No bullshit and just the best product. I would buy five.

But not any of this, this is shit.

Fuck Apple.

Re: We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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I live in Vietnam, phone theft is relatively prevalent here.

My dad once got tricked into buying an icloud locked phone. I was very sure it was a loss cause, but he tried bringing it to a local repair shop anyway. They removed the lock in a few minutes for something like 100usd.

Apparently at least some of those icloud unlocking ad that I always thought were scams are actually legit. So these locks may not be as effective as Apple may want you to believe.

Re: We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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https://www.imore.com/iphone-theft-drops-40-san-francisco-25... Activation lock made a huge difference. The next step to talking profits out of stolen iPhones is to make harvesting parts difficult. I absolutely give Apple the benefit of the doubt when it comes to I this. Back in the bad old days iPhone theft was incredibly common and that has come down a lot over the years.

> The next step to talking profits out of stolen iPhones is to make harvesting parts difficult. I would 100% buy this if you showed me data that indicates that part harvesting is behind most of the remaining theft of iPhones, which it very well may be, but if we have the data we would not have to guess.

FFS, what else do you think people are stealing them for? To make abstract art? Kleptomania? To stop the 5G towers from giving them COVID?

People steal stuff because they can use it or because they can turn around and sell it. If they can’t do either, they eventually stop stealing those things.

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