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YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Anonymous allegations from more than a decade ago, procured by a fishing reporter, should not lead to the cancellation of someone's means of supporting themselves. This is absurd, regardless of whether the accusations are ultimately true or not. Beyond the absurdity, this is tyrannical. Even the "testimony" they released was recorded by an actor. There's simply very little of substance here.

Maybe the real lesson here is nobody who wants to speak their mind should be supporting themselves on a platform of nervous advertisers.

why are they never nervous when they outright betray the demographics they should be pandering to?

latest examples would be the bud light and target fiascos

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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> “If a creator’s off-platform behavior harms our users, employees or ecosystem, we take action to protect the community,” the spokeswoman said. Putting aside the validity of the accusations—let's say he did everything he's accused of, for the sake of argument—is Youtube alleging that he assaulted Youtube employees, app developers who use the Youtube ecosystem, or Youtube users? I assume the latter. But the thing is,…

It's a stupid excuse. I guess all those 'Fail' videos will be de-monitised now?

It's incredibly easy to get a video demonetized on YouTube now. I don't know what videos you're talking about, but I wouldn't assume that they haven't long since been demonetized.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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My understanding is that when a channel's content is not monetized, no ads are displayed. So no, YouTube is not pocketing the money they would have paid him.

YT most certainly runs ads against demonetized content. They just don't share in the take with the creator. What a principled stance... "I will make even more money because you did something bad somewhere else!"

Well so much for the "we censor because of the advertisers demands" excuse for their censorship then.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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> “If a creator’s off-platform behavior harms our users, employees or ecosystem, we take action to protect the community,” the spokeswoman said. Putting aside the validity of the accusations—let's say he did everything he's accused of, for the sake of argument—is Youtube alleging that he assaulted Youtube employees, app developers who use the Youtube ecosystem, or Youtube users? I assume the latter. But the thing is,…

I’m 100% in favor of cleaning house with that generation of musicians and performers that openly preyed on women. But is that what YouTube is doing? When is Aerosmith getting demonetized? https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/steven-tyl...

How has it taken YouTube this long, anyway? Hasn’t much of this stuff been openly known for a decade or more? Is YouTube literally just reacting to the media cycle and nothing more?

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Moderation against abuse of your own system is fine, that's given. Even electricity companies will go after you if you abuse their grid but they won't care what kind of videos you film using their electricity. However I don't think that YouTube should decide what's hate speech and ban it. If that speech is illegal, the law enforcement should find the person. Maybe it can be acceptable to let the law enforcement delet…

Hate speech is not illegal in the US. Youtube is not judging what speech is legal or not, they're just making a decision about which types of content they want to distribute.

They haven't stopped _distributing_ Brand's videos. They just have stopped paying him money from the ads.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Symmetric fibre internet exists in many European countries, and is readily available to a large bulk of citizens in those countries already. I pay $25pm for 500Mbps symmetric today. I can’t fly to another planet and terraform it. I can (and do) host my own video streams however.

It's not about the tech. Plenty of people could have built Twitter from scratch, but Musk had to pay over $40B to have Twitter and no one came around to offer him to build a Twitter for $39B.

>but Musk had to pay over $40B to have Twitter and no one came around to offer him to build a Twitter for $39B.

As far as I understand, musk offered $40B for Twitter, unprompted. Is there any evidence that he put out offers to build an alternative for $39B? Because I feel like it would have been taken up given the widespread belief that he was overpaying, and even Musk believed that since he tried to back out.

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Except that Brand hasn't been censored. His videos are still online.

Of course it has, and we all know it. He's now been proven to be "that guy who had rape accusations" by "multiple women". Or the "controversial figure known for his wild antics and potentially non consensual dealings with women in the past". It's all just the start of a large machine thats been set in motion. Every news outlet that doesn't like him or doesn't want to portray him in a neutral or positive light will us…

This is the kind of delusional thinking that just doesn't work in the real world.

Because in the real world there are defamation laws. There are serious consequences for news organisations that publish accusations that are not able to be corroborated. Especially so when the claims are so significant i.e. multiple rape/sexual assaults.

Which is why despite apparently everyone in the comedy and entertainment industries knowing this was going on for 20+ years no allegations have made their way into the media.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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How are you determining what people (strangers) "already believe"?

Talking to them on the internet/real life over the past ten years

To me, that feels like a broad brush and lazy way to shut down any uncomfortable conversation. If you find it works for you, more power to you
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