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Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Post by agentgumshoe » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 10:23 PM UTC

karaterobot wrote: post #243

> “If a creator’s off-platform behavior harms our users, employees or ecosystem, we take action to protect the community,” the spokeswoman said. Putting aside the validity of the accusations—let's say he did everything he's accused of, for the sake of argument—is Youtube alleging that he assaulted Youtube employees, app developers who use the Youtube ecosystem, or Youtube users? I assume the latter. But the thing is,…

It's a stupid excuse. I guess all those 'Fail' videos will be de-monitised now?

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Post by swores » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 10:24 PM UTC

bennyschmidt wrote: post #220

c420 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are incorrect: "“He is most likely making £2,000 to £4,000 per video, not taking into account any affiliate deals and brand sponsorships that might be running in the background,” she said. Based on five videos a week, this could easily produce the best part of a £1m a year." https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/sep/18/how-russell-...

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Glad to see you deleted your other reply that was just rude.

I'd agree with the other person (and even if I agreed with you, I'd still point out that your language and attitude are quite against the HN guidelines, which are worth reading: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html )

I'd personally be surprised if Russel Brand had more than $1M/yr in sponsorship deals relating to his YouTube content, which would be 50/50 split between that and ads (I think likely to be more like 75/25 in favour of ads for him).

Yes for many celebrities, and even YouTube content creators, their sponsorships will be far more valuable than the platform's ads. But I doubt there are big-money deals lining up for the kind of conspiracy nonsense he puts out now days.

(And sure, Brand also makes money from work other than YouTube, but that's not relevant to the question of what % of money for YT content comes from YT ads vs. sponsors.)

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Post by Tokkemon » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 10:24 PM UTC

agentgumshoe wrote: post #366

Wow so much focus in the comments on the individual instead of YouTube's ability to randomly remove whoever they dislike, reminding us of the problems with large corporate companies controlling essentially public services. Just imagine if Tencent decided to buy YouTube from Google, would get real interesting.

Why do I have to waste brain space on this absurd hypothetical?

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Post by Danjoe4 » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 10:24 PM UTC

0xDEF wrote: post #309

jmfldn wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His decent into outrage-bait, alt-right friendly nonsense struck me as abrupt. One minute his channel was reasonable enough, the next it was totally nuts. Part of me wonders whether this was calculated once he knew that a major expose was circling. I have zero evidence for this, but you can see the logic. Court a following that is sceptical of everything, and that will see an investigation by the 'mainstream media' a…

He pulled an Elon. Elon Musk also came out as an alt-right troll when he was tipped that an expose about sexual harassment of a flight attendant was coming his way.

Elon Musk has greatly accelerated green energy innovation through EVs, battery technology, and solar. Are these actions appropriately described as "alt-right"?

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Post by mvdtnz » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 10:24 PM UTC

user3939382 wrote: post #263

sleepybrett wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

his channel is focused on woo and conspiracy.

Yeah definitely not. 95% of what he's talking about is true and correct, it's largely about the systemic corruption in politics. If you think none of that is real your education on US government stopped at Schoolhouse Rock.

I don't know anything about Russell Brand but I am just browsing through his recent videos and yes it's very much woo and conspiracy. His latest videos, chronoligically (I won't be clicking any of them, so some are hard to assess),

* So, this is happening - appears to be about the scenario under discussion here

* Hang on, Biden 9/11 Speech Was A Lie?! - conspiracy nuttery

* Bill Gates Has Been HIDING This And It's ALL About To Come Out - with an anti-vax symbol in the thumbnail, conspiracy nuttery

* Hang On, Obama Did WHAT?! - hard to say what this is about

* So, Trump Just Said THIS About Vaccines And It Changes EVERYTHING - conspiracy nuttery

* So, They LIED To Hawaii Victims About THIS - conspiracy nuttery

* So… They Fcking KNEW It Was A Lie All Along - conspiracy nuttery

Tucker’s Countdown To WW3 Has Started… - doomer nonsense

* The FBI Have Been Harvesting Your DNA?! - conspiracy nuttery

* So… Trump Just Changed EVERYTHING With This Move - no idea

* Shoespiracy EXPOSED: The HIDDEN Truth Of The Shoe Industry - conspiracy nuttery

* So… Tucker Just COMPLETELY FLIPPED The Ukraine Narrative - no idea but sounds stupid as hell

I didn't cherry pick anything, this was purely chronological.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Post by serf » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 10:25 PM UTC

asdfman123 wrote: post #294

rcxdude wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference between questioning everything and rejecting everything from the mainstream is an important one which Brand and many others seem not to understand.

Don't buy into the bad faith arguments. They aren't genuinely "asking questions," they're trying to bring what they already believe into the mainstream.

>Don't buy into the bad faith arguments.

the little known super-power : spotting bad-faith arguments flawlessly.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Post by agentgumshoe » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 10:25 PM UTC

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #143

Putting aside recent allegations, it's disappointing what has happened to Russell Brand's YouTube channel. I watched some of his videos a few years ago and they were interesting discussions of the news with a particular emphasis on questioning everything which I see as a healthy habit. Inevitably though, the algorithm steered the videos to become more clickbaity, divisive, and frankly crazy. He probably saw that outr…

I think he just found it harder to draw the line at where the lies end and real lies begin..

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Post by pseg134 » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 10:25 PM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #238

mrtksn wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if YouTube takes into consideration local values when doing this. For example, nudity and other controversial stuff can have much different standards on what's acceptable and what's not. If this is not baked into the formula, then it's likely that YouTube is pushing cultures to align with SV or some managers in Google. I'm not going to defend Russel Brand, just making a point about YT's impact. This time aro…

> but we need to go to the dumb wire days of the telephone companies who couldn't control what people say on the phone and if their services were used to do bad things it was the law enforcements job to deal with it. That is today. You do not get to control Google’s computers. Buy your own server(s), buy your own bandwidth, and do what you please. Lobby your representatives to make symmetric fiber internet a utility…

Then why were you crying the other day that the US needs to nationalize SpaceX to help Ukraine? Can’t they just built their own space based internet network?

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Post by Dig1t » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 10:25 PM UTC

0xDEF wrote: post #309

jmfldn wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His decent into outrage-bait, alt-right friendly nonsense struck me as abrupt. One minute his channel was reasonable enough, the next it was totally nuts. Part of me wonders whether this was calculated once he knew that a major expose was circling. I have zero evidence for this, but you can see the logic. Court a following that is sceptical of everything, and that will see an investigation by the 'mainstream media' a…

He pulled an Elon. Elon Musk also came out as an alt-right troll when he was tipped that an expose about sexual harassment of a flight attendant was coming his way.

The Twitter Files revealed pretty definitively that government censorship was taking place.

Caring about free speech does not make you alt-right, despite mainstream media’s attempts to paint him as such.

Elon and co’s have done more for progressive causes than basically all other companies combined.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Post by pydry » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 10:25 PM UTC

jmfldn wrote: post #285

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #143

Putting aside recent allegations, it's disappointing what has happened to Russell Brand's YouTube channel. I watched some of his videos a few years ago and they were interesting discussions of the news with a particular emphasis on questioning everything which I see as a healthy habit. Inevitably though, the algorithm steered the videos to become more clickbaity, divisive, and frankly crazy. He probably saw that outr…

His decent into outrage-bait, alt-right friendly nonsense struck me as abrupt. One minute his channel was reasonable enough, the next it was totally nuts. Part of me wonders whether this was calculated once he knew that a major expose was circling. I have zero evidence for this, but you can see the logic. Court a following that is sceptical of everything, and that will see an investigation by the 'mainstream media' a…

His channel went from 500k to 20 million viewers when he went off the rails. It could all have been an elaborate 4D chess gambit or alternatively he could just like money and attention.