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Trudeau obviously grasping at the chance of winning over some Sikh votes. Whether the allegations are credible or not is irrelevant to him, and likely will not be found out until after elections anyway. On the other hand, Facebook is much more likely to err on the side of India given the much larger population and associated $ potential and THE BILL. Canada is not exactly an espionage expert relative to places like I…
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It's a bit naïve to think that the Canadian public will respond to this in the same way that the Indian nationalist press respond to 56 inches' chest-thumping. People can vote Poilievre and oppose extrajudicial assassinations by foreign intelligence agencies.
Here's what naive means: Lacking worldly experience and understanding, especially. Simple and guileless; artless. Unsuspecting or credulous. I assure you that the Canadian public is fully capable of responding to this in a far more favorable way than almost any press, including the "Indian nationalist" press. As an example, they keep voting Trudeau back into office.
That's more just an accident due to how Canada's electoral system happens to behave.
During the 2019 federal election, the Liberal Party received 33.12% of the votes, and got 157 seats in the House of Commons. The Conservative Party had more votes at 34.34%, but only got 121 seats.
A similar thing happened in 2021. The Liberal Party received 32.62% of the votes, and got 160 seats. The Conservative Party again had more votes at 33.74%, but only got 119 seats.
Even his 2015 majority government only received 39.47% of the vote.
1984 is the last time I can think of when a majority government in Canada actually received over 50% of the vote, and even then it was only 50.03%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Canadian_federal_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Canadian_federal_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Canadian_federal_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Canadian_federal_election
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> The Prime Minister of Canada just did a state visit to India, where he was not warmly received, and made to look foolish on the world stage. So, he has his own political calculations in this affair, and is far from an objective arbiter of truth. This is a very bold claim.
> This is a very bold claim. So is blaming this killing on India. No evidence has been presented. This was probably nothing but gang rivalry. Indo-Canadian organized crime or Punjabi-Canadian organized crime is made up predominantly of young adults and teenagers of Punjabi ethnic, cultural and linguistic background, typically ethnic Jatt’s. [0] [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian_organized_crim...
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> suppression of separatists If true, this was a stupid move. They’ve martyred a separatist while bringing him and his cause international sympathy and attention. The assassins have carried out an action resembling an attack on a founding member of NATO and close ally of America’s. In North America. This is a line even the Soviets and Chinese respected. Not out of fear, but rational self interest. If true, New Delhi’…
> This is a line even the Soviets The Soviets regularly murdered dissidents from the Soviet Union in western countries. That's like half the reason the KGB existed. You can read about it in The Sword and the Shield by Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin, a book directly referencing KGB archives.
American citizens in North America?
Trudeau obviously grasping at the chance of winning over some Sikh votes. Whether the allegations are credible or not is irrelevant to him, and likely will not be found out until after elections anyway. On the other hand, Facebook is much more likely to err on the side of India given the much larger population and associated $ potential and THE BILL. Canada is not exactly an espionage expert relative to places like I…
Sikhs make up <2% of Canada. Even less when you account for that fact that not all of them are of age to vote. Do you really think a PM of Canada would throw away relationship with a potentially large trading partner for a few thousand votes?
Keep in mind that Jagmeet Singh is the leader of the NDP, the other main leftist party in Canada, and he represents the Burnaby South riding.
Due to how Canada's elections work, the Liberals drawing even a relatively small number of voters away from the NDP in key ridings could have a significant negative impact on the NDP's and Singh's level of success during the next election.
In 2021, Singh beat the Liberal candidate by only about 4,000 votes, for example. That was only 10% of the vote, and the overall turnout was merely 51% in that riding.
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> This is a line even the Soviets The Soviets regularly murdered dissidents from the Soviet Union in western countries. That's like half the reason the KGB existed. You can read about it in The Sword and the Shield by Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin, a book directly referencing KGB archives.
> Soviets regularly murdered dissidents from the Soviet Union in western countries American citizens in North America?
They did a lot of shit in North America but one of the points of Sword and Shield was explaining how assassinations were mainly directed towards ex-Soviet dissidents and not American citizens. I'm not excusing what the Indian Government did here, I'm just saying that the Soviets (and the United States for that matter) regularly performed actions on this level in a number of western countries.
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> First, American law does not apply globally and makes no demands to apply globally. This is completely false. There is no country that is more well versed on imposing their laws on other countries than the USA. This is done via sanctions, limiting access to the international US dollar based financial system, and by holding a dominant position in trade negotiations that often allows the USA to literally dictate the…
No. Those are political and diplomatic considerations and not legal considerations. Pressuring countries to adopt treaties and comply with American law is a diplomatic and political act and it is ultimately up to the governments in question to apply these laws (there are plenty of examples where countries reject American law). But regardless, this is an extralegal practice and Congress does not pass laws under the as…
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> This is a very bold claim. So is blaming this killing on India. No evidence has been presented. This was probably nothing but gang rivalry. Indo-Canadian organized crime or Punjabi-Canadian organized crime is made up predominantly of young adults and teenagers of Punjabi ethnic, cultural and linguistic background, typically ethnic Jatt’s. [0] [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian_organized_crim...
This is overt racism.
Read the Wikipedia link. There has been known and established link between Khalistani elements in Canada and Punjabi/Sikh organized crime.
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> First, American law does not apply globally and makes no demands to apply globally. This is completely false. There is no country that is more well versed on imposing their laws on other countries than the USA. This is done via sanctions, limiting access to the international US dollar based financial system, and by holding a dominant position in trade negotiations that often allows the USA to literally dictate the…
I think that's a fine (and correct) distinction that doesn't matter to what the GP was talking about (who perhaps worded their post in a bit of an unfortunate way that has you focusing on an mostly-irrelevant detail). Sure, the US government pressures other countries though various means to adopt certain legal regimes. But in the absence of that pressure (or the absence of a foreign country caving to that pressure),…
The US arrests or gets foreign citizens extradited to the US for acts committed in a foreign country on a regular basis. I'm not sure how you're not aware of this since it has happened to several very notable figure such as SBF, Kim Dotcom and Assange.