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Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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There are bad people in every group. I’m going to go with: what’s your point? I stand by my statement until shown statistical evidence to the contrary. This link is insufficient.

> There are bad people in every group What about Tibetan Buddhists? They have been highly persecuted. Yet only thing they set fire to is their own body.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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The bomb was planted on the plane in Canada, the attack was planned in Canada, the terrorists were Sikh Canadians, and the attack killed 268 Canadian citizens...

I see. I think our disagreement comes from the fact I don't think "Sikh Canadians" exist. There are Sikhs in Canada, and they planted a bomb in Canada, but the location was incidental, in my opinion.

Unfortunately they possessed Canadian citizenship, making them Canada's problem. That's the unfortunate reality of having one of the world's most lax immigration systems and an embarrassingly low bar for citizenship.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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To those saying "But Bill C-18" - it's not the Canadian government taking things down. It's the Indian government, taking down articles and posts that accuse them of assassinating a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil. C-18 is a problem. We need to deal with it. That's not relevant to the issue at hand. And to those saying "Well he was a terrorist..." we, in Canada, have something called the Rule of Law. You have to pr…

>>Murdering someone without trial because you don't like their political speech- why, I think there's a word for that.

Claiming without proof that Indian government carried out killing is called what?

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks United State's single most deadly terrorist attack was the bombing of the World Trade Centers by Islamic separatists. 2996 people were killed Is your point all Muslims are terrorists?

No, but it would be similarly ridiculous if someone described Muslims as "some of the most peace loving people on planet earth" like the post above.

No it wouldn't. Muslims != radical terrorism. It'd be like saying Timothy Mcveigh represents christian ideals.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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There are two differences: First, American law does not apply globally and makes no demands to apply globally. If companies do so it is a matter of convenience and not policy. While companies may petition the US government to apply pressure on allied countries to influence policy there is no presumption that American law will apply in a foreign country outside of what is circumscribed by treaties. Second there is the…

American law absolutely applies globally when it is applied to American citizens. People who don't realize this routinely end up in jail. Stuff like the drinking age (a state law) doesn't apply, but federal laws do apply, which is why American citizens who go abroad to commit gang-related crimes (and more stupidly, break fishing and hunting restrictions) are still arrested when they return despite the fact that no as…

Please don’t misunderstand. Most countries (all that I am aware of) apply their laws to all people within their territory and to their citizens globally. The Indian Law in question applies to non-Indian citizens outside India. That is a big difference.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Government workers, and seeing the line ups in towns around Ontario, and the "student" visa, among others. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-considering-fo... High effort comment tho.

So your evidence for that claim is random people's anecdotes about seeing too many Sikhs around?

I'm surely a giant racist. Nobody falls for that stuff anymore. If you want to understand why our politicians are acting a given way, you look at their key coalitions. In this case, there is a direct cause between the PM defecting from a close relationship with India's PM Modi, and who he needs to show alignment to in response to a political crisis affecting that community.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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post #181

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Every single time anyone posts anything that puts one nation in a bad light, someone comes in with this. Can we please not do this? Your nation will have its chance in the sun too. Hijacking threads like this to say, "well, what about your nation?" is childish to say the absolute least.

Well diplomacy is built on quid pro quos and whataboutism so I don’t know what’s childish in this, if anything this comment comes off as pretty naive and childish.

I'm sorry, but no, that is not diplomacy. If you think that is diplomacy, then you're spending a lot of time on tabloids and news headlines and no time where the diplomacy is primarily happening: in stuffy meeting rooms.

This is the behavior of actual children who can't stand to be subjected to critique and deflect with screams and shouts of their own victimhood.

Tomorrow it will be China's debt crisis, and the day after America's latest foreign intervention come to haunt them again but you know what? You can wait your turn. That's the very adult thing to do.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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>The Khalistani perpetrators of the worst terrorist act on Canadian soil, second only to 9/11 in deaths, walked free. >I can't comment on Canada's justice system broadly. But when it comes to holding terrorists accountable, Canada's track record is a joke. The wikipedia article says the Canadian government spent $130M prosecuting the accused, but was unable to secure a conviction. If these people can't be convicted,…

> prosecution was botched Well… wasn’t it: > In his verdict, Justice Ian Josephson cited "unacceptable negligence" by CSIS when hundreds of wiretaps of the suspects and other informants were destroyed. But that’s just how due process and judicial systems work.

Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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He was as much as a "leader" as Osama Bin Laden was a "leader" for Al-Qaeda. The group the "terrorist" belonged to committed the world's deadliest act of aviation terrorism until the September 11 attacks in 2001. They were responsible for assasinating Indias Prime Minister Indira Gandhi. Feels weird reading the western world feeling sympathetic for a group which commits acts of terrorism.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Western citizenship being inviolable golden passports for sheltering/weaponizing dissidents of foreign states is not going to be sustainable forever. The west providing sanctuary for enemies of other states is going to end when other states possess power/leverage to do something about it.

When will other states possess the power to do something about it? India doesn't have an expeditionary military, nor are they capable of building one in the next few decades. They can barely manage to defend their homeland and territorial waters. What's more likely are additional restrictions on international trade and immigration. The great experiment with globalism appears to be winding down and powerful countries…

Not everything raises to the level of full military intervention. Bluntly white western countries aren't going to go to bat when their brown/yellow citizens get murdered for diasphora drama. IMO this is more level of aggressive espionage/statecraft. India (and others like PRC) has increasing amount of loyal diasphora to activate to counter dissident disaphora and the cost-benefit seems to be leaning on the side of intervention, whether decoupling dynamic (PRC) or new geopolitical leverage (india).

But ultimately this is effort to moderate west, well smaller countries like Canada (increasingly dependent on Indian immigration) to control what domestic diasphora voices they amplify. Which may very well backfire. Or not - decades of increased PRC immigration + students in Canada was associated with fed gov playing down PRC dissident voices (and still do to some extent). Short of getting rid of problems via extradition - which is political suicide for Canada and won't happen - India limited to raising political cost of associating unfriendly diasphora politics. Canada isn't going to hit immigration targets without playing nice with either India or PRC. So there's no reason not to push, and almost extra reason to. There's likely going to be millions of new Indians in Canada by 2030, India doesn't want dissident elements to organize, and is incentivized to make domestic politics difficult in Canada if they're allowed to.

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