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Re: Snowden leak: Cavium networking hardware may contain NSA backdoor

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Post by throwawayq3423 »

PKop wrote: post #42
perihelions wrote: post #2

How the NSA successfully manage to prevent the Washington Post and friends from discovering and reporting on this malicious backdoor? They've been sitting on these documents for a decade. Are the journalists just that *uncurious* about the deep contents of the documents they hold exclusive access to? Was this some kind of organizational failing?

Some of them are deputies for the state. State-run-media, or Media-run-state, whichever you prefer. The FBI and CIA had agents inside Twitter and Facebook. Of course they have them inside news agencies as well. Part of it over time is access-media, the ones that play ball get the stories and info, the others get weeded out.

The casual nature of stating a completely impossible conspiracy theory has been common place online for years, HN news used to be immune.

It's illegal for FBI or CIA to actively target a US company. Anyone doing so would be fired for cause.

Re: Snowden leak: Cavium networking hardware may contain NSA backdoor

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Post by throwawayq3423 »

orangepurple wrote: post #18
perihelions wrote: post #2

How the NSA successfully manage to prevent the Washington Post and friends from discovering and reporting on this malicious backdoor? They've been sitting on these documents for a decade. Are the journalists just that *uncurious* about the deep contents of the documents they hold exclusive access to? Was this some kind of organizational failing?

Operation Mockingbird never ended. Full stop. (2010) https://weirdshit.blog/2010/07/23/cointelpro-operation-mocki...

Cold war history really broke people's brains. Yes this took place in the 1970s, no such thing happens today.

Re: Snowden leak: Cavium networking hardware may contain NSA backdoor

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Post by eastbound »

mk89 wrote: post #304
squarefoot wrote: post #60

When I buy something electronic, my approach is "everything that is closed and goes online will be used to spy on people". It may seem a stretch, but governments can't exercise power over something they cannot control, and truly private communications would take away some of that control. To me there are no conspiracy theories or other strange reasons for being able to decrypt any seemingly private information except…

If that is the case they are doing a pretty s** job spying on people, considering the amount of harm being done to children (and people in general).

This. All of this spying, not even being used for security ever, ie their goal might as well be general insecurity. It feels like their goal is the stability of the social layers, no or rare promotion, and maximum impermeability for the masses.

Re: Snowden leak: Cavium networking hardware may contain NSA backdoor

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Post by calgarymicro »

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #276
perihelions wrote: post #2

How the NSA successfully manage to prevent the Washington Post and friends from discovering and reporting on this malicious backdoor? They've been sitting on these documents for a decade. Are the journalists just that *uncurious* about the deep contents of the documents they hold exclusive access to? Was this some kind of organizational failing?

In the US, we have this passionate fantasy about Woodward and Bernstein and the Post and the Pulitzer and the movie and Redford and Hoffman and the Academy Award, about how the Press played the part of the "fourth estate" as the Founders intended, and rooted out a corrupt politician, and forced him to resign. It's all bullshit. The people who broke into the Watergate Hotel were CIA, Woodward was formerly CIA, and "De…

Wow, the deep state is so powerful that they got Nixon to say on tape that he was going to try to get the CIA to falsely use national security as an excuse to stonewall an FBI investigation. Poor innocent Nixon was no match for their telepathic powers.

Re: Snowden leak: Cavium networking hardware may contain NSA backdoor

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Post by jstarfish »

ormax3 wrote: post #293
michaelt wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect when a trove of documents is big enough, newspaper readers lose interest before you run out of documents. I mean, even on this tech forum hardly anyone knows who Cavium are, let alone your average Washington Post reader.

sounds like something LLMs can help with, sift through huge amounts of documents to summarize and highlight the interesting ones

If only. The biggest problems right now are limited context size and basic security, including having to share such documents with God-knows-how-many third parties.

Tangent, but we use Azure instead of OpenAI due to data-retention concerns. To ensure nobody's inputting anything classified or proprietary, Legal demanded implementation of an "AI safety" tool...so we demoed one that ships all prompts to a third party's regex-retraction API.

So you never know who ends up the recipient of your LLM prompt, where it's getting logged to, who's reviewing those logs, etc. Even some local models require execution of arbitrary code, and Gradio ships telemetry data. Uploading Snowden's docs into a black box is a good way to catch a ride in a black van.

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Post by logicchains »

throwawayq3423 wrote: post #381
PKop wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of them are deputies for the state. State-run-media, or Media-run-state, whichever you prefer. The FBI and CIA had agents inside Twitter and Facebook. Of course they have them inside news agencies as well. Part of it over time is access-media, the ones that play ball get the stories and info, the others get weeded out.

The casual nature of stating a completely impossible conspiracy theory has been common place online for years, HN news used to be immune. It's illegal for FBI or CIA to actively target a US company. Anyone doing so would be fired for cause.

It's illegal to lie under oath to Congress, did James Clapper go to jail? It's illegal to sleep with underage girls, how many people on Epstein's client list went to jail?

Re: Snowden leak: Cavium networking hardware may contain NSA backdoor

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

TavsiE9s wrote: post #299
baz00 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AWS support is pretty fucking terrible generally. We’re a very high rolling enterprise customer and it’s pretty obvious that some of their shit is being managed by two guys in a shed somewhere who don’t talk to each other.

Have you had the pleasure of working with Azure? I'll take AWS any day over that dumpster fire.

We selected AWS for very modest needs, but sometimes I glance over at Azure and wonder if the grass is greener. I'll take your word on it though.

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Post by slackfan »

MSFT_Edging wrote: post #309
slackfan wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. See you in the gulag, comerade

Gulag is just Russian for prison. The US currently has about 1.2M people in their gulags, comrade*

Гулаг (gulag) is the acronym for "Гла́вное управле́ние исправи́тельно-трудовы́х лагере́й" which translates to "Head management office of correctional work camps". And if you're going to go for all incarcerated, the number is actually somewhere in the 2.1mil range in the US, because hey, jails are a thing.

Sorry that you're wrong on all three points.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

baz00 wrote: post #182
wdb wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using AWS Greengrass?

Never even heard of that one!

It's a cloud to edge system. Like hosting some of your stuff on the edge, think like a cloud that lives inside your factory.

It confused me when researching it.

Re: Snowden leak: Cavium networking hardware may contain NSA backdoor

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Post by slackfan »

RationPhantoms wrote: post #190
slackfan wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. See you in the gulag, comerade

Oh please, the United States is so incredibly armed, my death will likely come at the hands of some misplaced right-wing militarized fascist group performing mass murders under the guise of "Freedom" and "A return to the constitutional purity of the US".

I've been promised that that was going to happen any day now since the wrong person got elected back in 2000. Nearly a quarter century on I am beginning to suspect that somebody was overstating something, I can't quite put my finger on what though...
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