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We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by snoman »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #23
plonk wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't that sound a bit tautological? One not wanting to date people one isn't interested in?

Maybe, but there are many, many studies showing that on dating apps, it's 80% of the women choosing 20% of the men. Many women are also fairly ignorant about how unrealistic some standards (over 6' tall, makes over $100K/yr.) are.

I’m not that old but I also never did online dating. Is there a possibility that online dating has a bias for women that are “choosy” (for lack of a better term)?

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by matheusmoreira »

autoexec wrote: post #113
rednerrus wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

20% of the men are sleeping with 80% of the women. This is leaving everyone except the 20% of men dissatisfied with the situation.

I'm not sure the math on that works out. Sounds exhausting. Like, how do those men have time for anything else! Are women really okay with passing the same men around?

> Are women really okay with passing the same men around?

Absolutely. There are women out there who will literally recommend men to their friends. I've seen them talk about this. Desirable men can literally end up being shared among a network of women. The more sex they have, the more sex they get to have.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

jtbayly wrote: post #101
alexb_ wrote: post #5

I don't know why people are focusing on what men will do with AI girlfriends - the actual question is what women will do with AI boyfriends. On every single AI chat app like character.ai the majority of users are women, and the most popular characters are men. Women are people who read romance novels and are even more attracted by the "emotional validation". > Now we’re facing a future where guys could get addicted t…

I'm interested in this claim that women are majority users. Sources?

I believe their claim is that the more likely market is women but the marketing is always geared towards men.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by CapstanRoller »

smeej wrote: post #100
fnimick wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't what the parent comment is talking about, it's talking about how (generally) women's rating of men's attractiveness follows the Pareto principle. This is purely from pictures and profiles, before anyone interacts with anyone else. If it makes us feel any better, in the same data set, women did actively message and pair up with men they didn't rate as very attractive so.... good for us I guess?

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>Men's ratings of women follow the same principle.

OKCupid data shows otherwise: https://0x0.st/HOJB.png

https://web.archive.org/web/20131205025323/https://blog.okcu...

Also, here is an archived OKC blog about how race affects rated attractiveness:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170227025819/https://theblog.o...

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by autoexec »

vsareto wrote: post #14

This is overblown as you're not actually competing over someone who's using an AI girlfriend since they have removed themselves from the dating pool. If someone's using it while in a real relationship, that should be addressed in therapy.

The therapist is also AI, owned by the same company who sells AI girlfriends, and it will assure you that an AI partner is normal and healthy and that if you download the McDonald's app you could get a free big mac.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by mrguyorama »

bakugo wrote: post #83
commandlinefan wrote: post #6

I guess I'm supposed to be sympathetic, but since I started dating in the early 90's I've gotten the distinct impression that women by and large want most men to leave them alone in general - isn't this what they've wanted for generations? Men who aren't the sort of men they're interested in to just go away?

Women want to be left alone, until they don't. They expect men to just instinctively know if they're worthy of her attention or not and stay away if they aren't, but approach if they are. Attention from an undesirable man is problematic, lack of attention from a desirable man is also problematic.

It sucks but it's hard to fault women for this, as it's basically just survival instincts. The amount of women who have been literally sexually assaulted or raped by a hookup or date or meeting someone at a bar, let alone just really really bad experiences that didn't even reach physical harm, means that the only way to stay safe in public is to disengage.

However, women often still want partners, because most people do, and it's their market to dictate, so of course they have high standards.

For most women, every "yes" to a date is basically Russian roulette, because people who sexually abuse women do it a lot, do it often, and do it to a lot of women, because nobody stops them. Sexual crimes almost always become "He said/She said" because consent is not a physical thing, so it's rarely possible to hit the "beyond all reasonable doubt" criteria of a conviction, which predictably doesn't calm the nerves of women or survivors of assault.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by alexb_ »

jlawson wrote: post #64
alexb_ wrote: post #5

I don't know why people are focusing on what men will do with AI girlfriends - the actual question is what women will do with AI boyfriends. On every single AI chat app like character.ai the majority of users are women, and the most popular characters are men. Women are people who read romance novels and are even more attracted by the "emotional validation". > Now we’re facing a future where guys could get addicted t…

It's a combination of the Women-are-wonderful Effect [0] (which goes double when it comes to sexuality) and the universal lack of giving-a-shit about problems that men face. Men's sexuality is dangerous and unnecessary. Womens' sexuality is moral and precious. To say that womens' sexuality is causing a social problem is absolutely unacceptable in establishment cultural spaces. The other side of it is that nobody care…

> To say that womens' sexuality is causing a social problem is absolutely unacceptable in establishment cultural spaces.

Woah there, when did I say any of this was a problem? Women should be free to do all of this, in fact I think more needs to be done to give women what they want as it's a market which people aren't giving proper consideration.

> The idea that the men might deserve equal education for themselves isn't even worth considering, because men deserve nothing and their suffering scores zero on the moral-imperative scale. It only matters in how it affects women.

You're not being very charitable to how these issues are handled. Nobody is completely uncaring of men - trying to spin this as "the world hates men" just seems incorrect.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

mrguyorama wrote: post #117
smeej wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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While a shit ton of men do in fact sabotage themselves with dick picks, they also work a non-zero amount of times, which sort of drives the whole problem with them. But no, "it's not that easy" for most men to experience ANYTHING on Tindr. Just go look at posts on data reddits where people export their tindr profile into a visualization. The average "male" experience actually looks most like the experience of a (self…

> hid that blog post

I don't believe I've seen this before. Does anybody happen to have an archive link handy?

Edit: In case someone misses this in another comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37575062): https://0x0.st/HOJB.png. It seems that this is likely to have come from the mentioned blog post.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

Supply5411 wrote: post #47

If you feel an existential crisis now, just wait until the artificial wombs. Replacing man's reliance on woman is where technology is heading.

Do men want to be single parents? I'd imagine they mostly want a 'wife' who will be a mother too; I'd hate to raise a child without a mother (I was a part-time SAHD, fwiw).

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by autoexec »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #122
autoexec wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure the math on that works out. Sounds exhausting. Like, how do those men have time for anything else! Are women really okay with passing the same men around?

> Are women really okay with passing the same men around? Absolutely. There are women out there who will literally recommend men to their friends. I've seen them talk about this. Desirable men can literally end up being shared among a network of women. The more sex they have, the more sex they get to have.

I guess I wouldn't be surprised if it were happening somewhere, but I still have a hard time believing that's the norm. Maybe I'm just the possessive and jealous type...
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