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Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by Sanzig »

n_t wrote: post #39

Since this will soon become heated and full of misinformation, here are some details- 1. PM Trudeau called emergency session over "credible" allegations but no actual evidence. The leader of opposition has also called out lack of evidence. 2. Canada expelled a key Indian diplomat but not nothing more - basically diplomatese - https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/18/americas/canada-hardeep-s... 3. India issued statement ca…

> The leader of opposition has also called out lack of evidence.

That is not what he said at all: https://nitter.net/PierrePoilievre/status/170389391532824992...

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by ta8645 »

kmeisthax wrote: post #36
dblohm7 wrote: post #9

Play stupid games (Canadian government bill C-18 [1]), win stupid prizes. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_News_Act

This isn't C-18, this is way worse. The context is that there's a Canadian Sikh who has been calling for parts of India to secede from India. In response, India had him assassinated. India has laws on the books that allow them to remove content globally for things that violate Indian law. They enforce this on social media companies by requiring them to have employees on the country's soil in order to take them hostag…

> In response, India had him assassinated.

Why do people keep saying this like it's a fact? Often it's the same people claiming that the murdered victim in Canada should be presumed innocent of the accusations levelled at him.

In both cases, we should approach the accusations with skepticism.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by kmeisthax »

pharrington wrote: post #42
happytiger wrote: post #21

You let them have total media control and censorship and then act surprised when they use it. Canadians, time for change!

You're saying Canadians let Facebook have total media control? The blame lies on Mark Zuckerberg. This is a Mark Zuckerberg (or more generally, unfettered capitalism) problem.

No, it's an India problem. Insamuch as Facebook or capitalism is even at fault, it's specifically because they're either willing to comply with, or have been duped into complying with, India's attempts at censorship.

The fact that BC Sikhs was eventually uncensored would indicate the latter, but India knows that they can try again, because...

- Companies like Facebook are big, monopolistic platforms, which mean they have too much content and not enough moderators, so they have a 'shoot first, ask questions later' mentality

- India holds some Facebook employees hostage. This is part of their law, you can't run a social media network there without domestic employees, and those employees effectively become agents of India with stiff penalties for noncompliance.

The fault Facebook and other capitalists have is not immediately NOPEing out of the Indian market. They left themselves open to being used as a censorship tool by powerful-enough governments.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by mistrial9 »

n_t wrote: post #39

Since this will soon become heated and full of misinformation, here are some details- 1. PM Trudeau called emergency session over "credible" allegations but no actual evidence. The leader of opposition has also called out lack of evidence. 2. Canada expelled a key Indian diplomat but not nothing more - basically diplomatese - https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/18/americas/canada-hardeep-s... 3. India issued statement ca…

> "khalistani" (mind you, not Sikhs)

thank you .. also I have seen ill-informed US people accosting young Sikhs with accusations and harassment on the street in daylight .. Sikhs identified by their formal dress

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by eynsham »

ta8645 wrote: post #52
kmeisthax wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't C-18, this is way worse. The context is that there's a Canadian Sikh who has been calling for parts of India to secede from India. In response, India had him assassinated. India has laws on the books that allow them to remove content globally for things that violate Indian law. They enforce this on social media companies by requiring them to have employees on the country's soil in order to take them hostag…

> In response, India had him assassinated. Why do people keep saying this like it's a fact? Often it's the same people claiming that the murdered victim in Canada should be presumed innocent of the accusations levelled at him. In both cases, we should approach the accusations with skepticism.

Indian nationalist circles close to the government have been claiming credit on behalf of RAW for some time (e.g., https://tfipost.com/2023/06/raw-will-never-confirm-but-harde...).

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by asg101 »

mabbo wrote: post #48

To those saying "But Bill C-18" - it's not the Canadian government taking things down. It's the Indian government, taking down articles and posts that accuse them of assassinating a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil. C-18 is a problem. We need to deal with it. That's not relevant to the issue at hand. And to those saying "Well he was a terrorist..." we, in Canada, have something called the Rule of Law. You have to pr…

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Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by screye »

mabbo wrote: post #48

To those saying "But Bill C-18" - it's not the Canadian government taking things down. It's the Indian government, taking down articles and posts that accuse them of assassinating a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil. C-18 is a problem. We need to deal with it. That's not relevant to the issue at hand. And to those saying "Well he was a terrorist..." we, in Canada, have something called the Rule of Law. You have to pr…

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182

The Khalistani perpetrators of the worst terrorist act on Canadian soil, second only to 9/11 in deaths, walked free.

I can't comment on Canada's justice system broadly. But when it comes to holding terrorists accountable, Canada's track record is a joke.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by motohagiography »

n_t wrote: post #39

Since this will soon become heated and full of misinformation, here are some details- 1. PM Trudeau called emergency session over "credible" allegations but no actual evidence. The leader of opposition has also called out lack of evidence. 2. Canada expelled a key Indian diplomat but not nothing more - basically diplomatese - https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/18/americas/canada-hardeep-s... 3. India issued statement ca…

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