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MGM losing up to $8.4M a day due to cyberattack, analyist says

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Re: MGM losing up to $8.4M a day due to cyberattack, analyist says

#51

How is it even possible for all aspects of such a massive enterprise to all share a single point of failure like that? And why can't they just cut their losses on the past N days of business, restore all these servers from snapshots and get back to business?

“The DR planning meeting has been once again postponed until next quarter…”

Some middle-manager somewhere, probably.

Re: MGM losing up to $8.4M a day due to cyberattack, analyist says

#52

This really feels like 1650's nautical piracy. Someone outside the reach of the law of the targeted country's merchants, making tons of money by theft and ransom. And like the pirates of old, often supported by the host nation so long as their attacks disrupt the activities of rivals nations' merchants.

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Re: MGM losing up to $8.4M a day due to cyberattack, analyist says

#53

How is it even possible for all aspects of such a massive enterprise to all share a single point of failure like that? And why can't they just cut their losses on the past N days of business, restore all these servers from snapshots and get back to business?

There are multiple things that are done here. Suppose you had great, immutable backups. They still have many things that can ruin your business

1. Restoring networks, servers, third party services with knowledge that anything you restore could be compromised as well. Keys

2. The attackers will then threaten to dump all of your private information.

It is more than just restoring data, it is restoring and resetting your entire infrastructure. And most places have backups, but they don't practice entire restores

Re: MGM losing up to $8.4M a day due to cyberattack, analyist says

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Merchants provide a value to society and pirates harm that. The thieves are providing a value to society in this case by damaging casinos, which provide no value to society and only harm citizens.

Casinos provide leisure and entertainment. If what you're actually trying to say is that they are overall a net harm, then I'd point out that imperial mercantilism was also quite harmful to many people. At least MGM hasn't overthrown any countries.

In exactly the same way a heroin dealer provides leisure and entertainment. Selling access to an inherently addictive substance should not be a for profit endeavor. The incentives are inherently biased towards harming people for profit.

Re: MGM losing up to $8.4M a day due to cyberattack, analyist says

#55

I never like it when writers use the word "lose" to describe money not earned. Yeah, MGM is not earning as much as it could because of this attack. They are under pressure to settle with the attackers. Articles like this can increase that pressure. I'm glad that they aren't settling, and I'm certain that they will survive this attack.

If your employer gives you 2 weeks notice of employment termination, did you lose your job? After all, it only applies to future payroll periods.

Yes you lost your job, and will not receive money in the future. Money from a job is in exchange for services rendered to company. It's reasonable to say you can't lose something you haven't yet received, but it is also normal to say they're losing money given they had an incredibly high likelihood of actually receiving it.

Re: MGM losing up to $8.4M a day due to cyberattack, analyist says

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I'm curious if MGM fully understood their cyber risks. Many companies underestimate threats until something like this happens. After seeing MGM, if other hotels beef up security too (very likely), will overall costs for consumers go up?

> Many companies underestimate threats until something like this happens Speaking from my experience, many don't understand the threats even after an incident. The reaction is often to add 'more security' under any name. More restrictive policies, more scanning, more layers of MFA - just blindly layering on things because it's seen as 'more secure' without properly understanding how it affects risk is an awful approa…

The goal is to make the boss feel more secure. And there are plenty of snake oil salesmen willing to sell to that boss.

Re: MGM losing up to $8.4M a day due to cyberattack, analyist says

#57

This really feels like 1650's nautical piracy. Someone outside the reach of the law of the targeted country's merchants, making tons of money by theft and ransom. And like the pirates of old, often supported by the host nation so long as their attacks disrupt the activities of rivals nations' merchants.

Merchants provide a value to society and pirates harm that. The thieves are providing a value to society in this case by damaging casinos, which provide no value to society and only harm citizens.

More than casinos are being damaged. There's also hotels, restaurants, etc.

Re: MGM losing up to $8.4M a day due to cyberattack, analyist says

#58

People are saving up to $8.4M a day due to cyberattack, and gambling addicts are being spared, analysts say

Yep. They definitely can’t walk down the street to another casino to make poor decisions.

Ah yes, a physical addiction is "Poor decisions", like being born poor is a poor decision

Re: MGM losing up to $8.4M a day due to cyberattack, analyist says

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not even that, it's revenue. > MGM Resorts International could be losing between $4.2 million and $8.4 million in daily revenue

Revenue is a measure of income. Unless speaking about specific types of revenue or specific types of income, they are synonymous.

Accounts don't think revenue and income are synomymous: income is revenue minus expenses. Now if you were to say that profit and income are synonymous, that I might be okay with.

Re: MGM losing up to $8.4M a day due to cyberattack, analyist says

#60

How is it even possible for all aspects of such a massive enterprise to all share a single point of failure like that? And why can't they just cut their losses on the past N days of business, restore all these servers from snapshots and get back to business?

Maybe they shouldn't have their corporate login page on the Internet.

https://mgmresorts.okta.com/app/mgmresortsprod_neocaseemploy...

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