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We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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post #5

I don't know why people are focusing on what men will do with AI girlfriends - the actual question is what women will do with AI boyfriends. On every single AI chat app like character.ai the majority of users are women, and the most popular characters are men. Women are people who read romance novels and are even more attracted by the "emotional validation". > Now we’re facing a future where guys could get addicted t…

I'm interested in this claim that women are majority users. Sources?

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

#102
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The key word is "young".

Among 15 and 20 year olds, the most skewed results (India and China) are 106 to 100, a difference of 6%. Rest of the world is pretty close to 50-50 [1]. [1] https://ourworldindata.org/gender-ratio#:~:text=In%20the%20g... .

Young women are dating older men. That's why younger men are in fewer relationships. Older women also skew the wrong way for similar reasons.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

#103
post #92
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does that make sense? Are there significantly more young men than women? Or do the women date older men?

This is an important question the article doesn't even seen to try to answer. It does seem to rule out the "older men" theory as a complete explanation: > Young women are also dating and marrying slightly older men, carrying on a tradition that stretches back more than a century. The average age at first marriage is around 30 for men, 28 for women, according to census figures. If the average difference 8s only 2 year…

If 20% of the men are in "relationships" with 80% of the women, this would help to account for some of it.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

#104

I can always depend on these kinds of articles for the sin of omission. Unrealistic standards for women ... nevermind the standards women have for men. Pre-web, I worked at a dating service. I've mentioned this before here. Women rated their preferences as having a higher importance than men did, over and over again, and on the most depressingly stereotyped vectors: money and height. Then you have your deleted OKCupi…

> I can always depend on these kinds of articles for the sin of omission. Unrealistic standards for women ... nevermind the standards women have for men.

Yeah, but a charitable interpretation is that this is the female perspective and anxieties on AI porn/relationships/intimacy.

I'm sure there have been articles that focus on the male exploitation(emotionally, economically, etc.) these services do without mentioning the female body image issues they may exacerbate.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

#105
All a woman has to do to compete with an AI is be fit, good at something, desire motherhood, and leave the house to do anything social at all after working hours. The secret to finding a great man is to learn to appreciate one. I've said before that social media is like a vibrator for narcisistic supply, and seriously, if you use instagram, you are entrained by a deeply insane narrative existence that keeps you suspended in anxiety until your fertility expires. Instagram doesn't improve a womans options on men as there is a quality ceiling of guys who want to be around women dependent on that much attention, let alone have kids with one. In a lot of ways, it is a way for women to sabotage each other. This is an attrition game where the only ones who survive are the ones who take responsibility for themselves. AI isn't the problem. The only algorithms men and women really need to be worried about come from instagram, and probably doordash.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

#106
Never personally dated, but like anime women. Over the decades however I've just been reaffirmed that dating simply isn't worth my time or effort.

I'm single and enjoy that.

I do not exist to either entertain another person or validate their self worth.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

#107
post #5

I don't know why people are focusing on what men will do with AI girlfriends - the actual question is what women will do with AI boyfriends. On every single AI chat app like character.ai the majority of users are women, and the most popular characters are men. Women are people who read romance novels and are even more attracted by the "emotional validation". > Now we’re facing a future where guys could get addicted t…

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Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

#108
post #64
post #5

I don't know why people are focusing on what men will do with AI girlfriends - the actual question is what women will do with AI boyfriends. On every single AI chat app like character.ai the majority of users are women, and the most popular characters are men. Women are people who read romance novels and are even more attracted by the "emotional validation". > Now we’re facing a future where guys could get addicted t…

It's a combination of the Women-are-wonderful Effect [0] (which goes double when it comes to sexuality) and the universal lack of giving-a-shit about problems that men face. Men's sexuality is dangerous and unnecessary. Womens' sexuality is moral and precious. To say that womens' sexuality is causing a social problem is absolutely unacceptable in establishment cultural spaces. The other side of it is that nobody care…

Why are you being downvoted? You're right.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

#109

I can always depend on these kinds of articles for the sin of omission. Unrealistic standards for women ... nevermind the standards women have for men. Pre-web, I worked at a dating service. I've mentioned this before here. Women rated their preferences as having a higher importance than men did, over and over again, and on the most depressingly stereotyped vectors: money and height. Then you have your deleted OKCupi…

> I can always depend on these kinds of articles for the sin of omission. Unrealistic standards for women ... nevermind the standards women have for men. Yeah, but a charitable interpretation is that this is the female perspective and anxieties on AI porn/relationships/intimacy. I'm sure there have been articles that focus on the male exploitation(emotionally, economically, etc.) these services do without mentioning…

I'm charitable up until this is pointed out as A Problem, in the "golly, we should do something about this!" sense. Then ... then I want to see a little balance and a wider perspective.

This article goes past the "I feel insecure!" and into the problem territory. She's not at the "let's make policy" level yet, but make no mistake, she doesn't like that this exists.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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post #79
post #5

I don't know why people are focusing on what men will do with AI girlfriends - the actual question is what women will do with AI boyfriends. On every single AI chat app like character.ai the majority of users are women, and the most popular characters are men. Women are people who read romance novels and are even more attracted by the "emotional validation". > Now we’re facing a future where guys could get addicted t…

The reason for this framing is the current zeitgeist, where the societal narrative has been dominated by gender stereotypes that portrait males as the bad guys by default. Feel free to add the adjectives "white" and "old" to that whenever it feels appropriate. Perhaps it is a bit annoying and even harmful at the moment but I also don't think that this over-feminist story is not sustainable on the societal level in th…

> My hope is that when the pendulum swings the other way again, the mean will actually have shifted in a positive direction.

Nah. Every time people popularize some kind of extremism, the reaction is some other kind of extremism. Allowing the pendulum to swing high is never healthy and never solved by its reversal.

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