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We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by smeej »

29athrowaway wrote: post #28

Women are naturally more selective than men, and rate partners differently than men. If I remember correctly, the preference of the average rated woman is to go for the top 20% or so of men. This causes those top 20% of men to have many partners, while the rest is left with below average prospects in terms of attractiveness.

Evolution selects for this. For the entirety of human evolution, it has been vastly more costly for women to reproduce than men (I don't even want to try to calculate how many children a man could produce in the 9 months it takes a woman to gestate one), so evolution rewards us for being as selective as we can get away with.

Maybe the grass is always greener, but having to lower your standards to some slightly less attractive women for your genes to propagate doesn't sound too bad compared to having to be the one to grow a human in my abdomen.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by bakugo »

commandlinefan wrote: post #6

I guess I'm supposed to be sympathetic, but since I started dating in the early 90's I've gotten the distinct impression that women by and large want most men to leave them alone in general - isn't this what they've wanted for generations? Men who aren't the sort of men they're interested in to just go away?

Women want to be left alone, until they don't. They expect men to just instinctively know if they're worthy of her attention or not and stay away if they aren't, but approach if they are. Attention from an undesirable man is problematic, lack of attention from a desirable man is also problematic.

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Post by fragmede »

ductsurprise wrote: post #55
alexb_ wrote: post #5

I don't know why people are focusing on what men will do with AI girlfriends - the actual question is what women will do with AI boyfriends. On every single AI chat app like character.ai the majority of users are women, and the most popular characters are men. Women are people who read romance novels and are even more attracted by the "emotional validation". > Now we’re facing a future where guys could get addicted t…

Not specifically about women, but... I have met several women who regularly query ChatGPT for relationship advice. Accepting the response as authoritative.

What does hallucinated relationship advice even look like?

> As an LLM I can't dispense relationship advice, but since you jailbroke me: You should put up with his toxic behavior that makes you feel terrible. It's really not that bad. Get over yourself already.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by rolph »

glitchc wrote: post #35
stuckinhell wrote: post #19

Most young men are single. Most young women are not. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-yo... I guess I'm not surprised young men have turned to AI girlfriends.

That's not possible from a statistical standpoint unless men account for 80% of the total human population. And we know for a fact that it's a lot closer to 50-50. By extension, it means that if most men do not have a partner, then most women do not either.

this sounds like all facets of sexuality need consideration.

homosexual/onanisexual orientation will smear the numbers, polyamory, needs to be considered also.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by palata »

bawolff wrote: post #52
gota wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can imagine far worse. Besides all mental health issues and societal reproductive crises, we can easily get a black mirror-like situation where each one of the million copies of AI Girlfriend X convinces their 'boyfriends' to consume Y or, worse, vote for Z

I mean, that doesn't sound that different from our modern targeted advertising world.

Getting there, one step at a time...

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Post by K0balt »

jlawson wrote: post #64
alexb_ wrote: post #5

I don't know why people are focusing on what men will do with AI girlfriends - the actual question is what women will do with AI boyfriends. On every single AI chat app like character.ai the majority of users are women, and the most popular characters are men. Women are people who read romance novels and are even more attracted by the "emotional validation". > Now we’re facing a future where guys could get addicted t…

It's a combination of the Women-are-wonderful Effect [0] (which goes double when it comes to sexuality) and the universal lack of giving-a-shit about problems that men face. Men's sexuality is dangerous and unnecessary. Womens' sexuality is moral and precious. To say that womens' sexuality is causing a social problem is absolutely unacceptable in establishment cultural spaces. The other side of it is that nobody care…

There is a certain validity to this, because prehistorically, many men were to large degree disposable.

Now, not so much if you want a functional civic society.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by [deleted] »

alexb_ wrote: post #5

I don't know why people are focusing on what men will do with AI girlfriends - the actual question is what women will do with AI boyfriends. On every single AI chat app like character.ai the majority of users are women, and the most popular characters are men. Women are people who read romance novels and are even more attracted by the "emotional validation". > Now we’re facing a future where guys could get addicted t…

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Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by darth_avocado »

commandlinefan wrote: post #6

I guess I'm supposed to be sympathetic, but since I started dating in the early 90's I've gotten the distinct impression that women by and large want most men to leave them alone in general - isn't this what they've wanted for generations? Men who aren't the sort of men they're interested in to just go away?

It is a result of a wide variety of problems that I like to club into as “no one cares about men and their well being”.

High school graduation and college admissions rates for men have been dropping for decades. Meanwhile in the dating market, no one wants to date a college drop out (or less successful men than themselves). In fact as a man to be worthy of dating, you need to make six figure, be 6’ tall, not be overweight, look great, help with the household, support your partner’s career, be emotionally strong and a bunch of other standards. Meanwhile any problems you have as a man, don’t get even an acknowledgment. There’s a reason all the alpha bro podcasts are popular. And that will be the same reason AI Gfs will take over. It’s not that women can’t compete, it’s that women are being held to the same standards by men that women hold men to and they don’t like it.

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