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We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by hotnfresh »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #13
alexb_ wrote: post #5

I don't know why people are focusing on what men will do with AI girlfriends - the actual question is what women will do with AI boyfriends. On every single AI chat app like character.ai the majority of users are women, and the most popular characters are men. Women are people who read romance novels and are even more attracted by the "emotional validation". > Now we’re facing a future where guys could get addicted t…

This would've been obvious to our ancestors, but not all pornography is nudity, or even visual. Even the word reflects this, "pórnos" (fornicators) + "gráphein" (writing, recording, or description). Anyone who wants to learn what women's porn looks like needs to look at the sales numbers for Fifty Shades of Gray .

It’s so popular that porn for women is damn near the only remaining book market that’s fairly healthy.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by Adiqq »

Well, so women have to adjust? Some people might be fine with AI girlfriend, but come on, if someone can be replaced with limited, virtual entity, then bar is still set very low. Yes, maybe they can generate image of some virtual girlfriend and you can choose her hair or "personality", but it's still limited AI.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by palata »

gota wrote: post #9
palata wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> maybe at worst it'll be good practice That's the worst you can imagine? :-)

I can imagine far worse. Besides all mental health issues and societal reproductive crises, we can easily get a black mirror-like situation where each one of the million copies of AI Girlfriend X convinces their 'boyfriends' to consume Y or, worse, vote for Z

Yes, I can imagine worse as well :-)

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by stuckinhell »

commandlinefan wrote: post #6

I guess I'm supposed to be sympathetic, but since I started dating in the early 90's I've gotten the distinct impression that women by and large want most men to leave them alone in general - isn't this what they've wanted for generations? Men who aren't the sort of men they're interested in to just go away?

It sounds like some women (a, unfortunately larger percentage than I'd like) simply want to men to suffer.

I doubt the men who get AI girlfriends were the men most women wanted to date anyways.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by glitchc »

stuckinhell wrote: post #19

Most young men are single. Most young women are not. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-yo... I guess I'm not surprised young men have turned to AI girlfriends.

That's not possible from a statistical standpoint unless men account for 80% of the total human population. And we know for a fact that it's a lot closer to 50-50. By extension, it means that if most men do not have a partner, then most women do not either.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by giantg2 »

Eh, I don't think this is as big of a deal as is being pushed here. Stuff like marriage rates and birth rates declining have little to do with this. Is there any support for the idea in the article about some unattainable standards driving these numbers? Seems like other issues in my opinion. Edit: I should clarify that unattainable standards are part of the issue, but I don't think that's the product of things like an AI gf. Rather AI gfs are a symptom (demand is already there).

"at some point, life might become so stripped of reality and humanity that the pendulum will swing."

It's largely already happened if you look at the popularity of amateur porn and stuff.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by HPsquared »

mrweasel wrote: post #15
alexb_ wrote: post #5

I don't know why people are focusing on what men will do with AI girlfriends - the actual question is what women will do with AI boyfriends. On every single AI chat app like character.ai the majority of users are women, and the most popular characters are men. Women are people who read romance novels and are even more attracted by the "emotional validation". > Now we’re facing a future where guys could get addicted t…

This might just be me being a bit cynical, but the men who would be raving about an AI girlfriend have already been buying a similar products from women on sites like OnlyFans. I don't think it's a massive difference.

Yep... for men it's an incremental upgrade (if even that), whereas for women it could be a total game changer.

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by smeej »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #23
plonk wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't that sound a bit tautological? One not wanting to date people one isn't interested in?

Maybe, but there are many, many studies showing that on dating apps, it's 80% of the women choosing 20% of the men. Many women are also fairly ignorant about how unrealistic some standards (over 6' tall, makes over $100K/yr.) are.

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Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

bawolff wrote: post #26

This feels like a bit of a premature moral panic. AI chat bots are obviously not replacing real relationships. They do not "provide" the same thing.

I want to know what academic invented the words "moral panic" as a way to handwave any issue; even though the application of it is hilariously inconsistent. Is being upset about Ukraine being invaded a moral panic?

Re: We Can't Compete with AI Girlfriends

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Post by tonymet »

We encouraged women to stop depending on men for security (financial, physical), but now we’re shaming men for trying to reduce their dependency on women (sexual , emotional)

Id argue that the mutual dependency was a good thing.

But why shame one and not the other ?

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