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The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

#91
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The future has always been DHT, but having no built-in search feature like Kademlia is a huge oversight imo. There are websites that crawl DHT and you can search using them https://btdig.com but of course it would be better to have something decentralised.

There is: https://github.com/boramalper/magnetico. Working like a charm.

You also want to know which torrent looks legit, so you may want to query trackers ... Here you go: https://sr.ht/~rakoo/magneticos/

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

#92
post #82

Side-note: I will always be in awe of the BitTorrent protocol. A resilient and efficient piece of tech that at its height was responsible for LARGE amounts of internet traffic (facilitated by sites like the TPB) and was (mostly) developed by just one guy: Bram Cohen.

In 2007 I uploaded a rather obscure TV show to Demonoid, ripped from DVDs that were quite difficult to obtain and that I have long since lost. A few months ago I downloaded it from TPB; somewhat to my surprise it was the same torrent I had uploaded 16 years ago. I thought that was kinda neat. It's probably also the only way to watch this TV show, legal or otherwise. "Distributed cloud backup" I suppose :-) (I do regr…

That is so awesome! Thanks for sharing (both the story and the original upload).

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

#93
I recently listened to the Darknet Diaries episode about the PirateBay:

https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/92/

Great episode, he interviewed one of the founders. Goes through the whole history of the piratebay and all the times they tried to take it down. Guy seems... interesting. Basically exactly who you might expect would be running that website.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've always found it odd that people have such guttural reactions to cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency has been used for a huge number of scams, and generally to allow criminals launder their money and do more easily their job. All of this, and more, at a huge environmental expense. Technically the concept is great, but the implementation and use has been mostly harmful so far.

It's only fair to then reflect on the almighty dollar and the scams, criminal deeds and atrocities which it has also enabled. If you still find utility in the dollar bill after such reflection, then the argument doesn't hold up to cryptocurrency.

The difference is that crypto has only had a negative impact on my life. It's more of a mixed bag with the dollar.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

#95
post #82

Side-note: I will always be in awe of the BitTorrent protocol. A resilient and efficient piece of tech that at its height was responsible for LARGE amounts of internet traffic (facilitated by sites like the TPB) and was (mostly) developed by just one guy: Bram Cohen.

In 2007 I uploaded a rather obscure TV show to Demonoid, ripped from DVDs that were quite difficult to obtain and that I have long since lost. A few months ago I downloaded it from TPB; somewhat to my surprise it was the same torrent I had uploaded 16 years ago. I thought that was kinda neat. It's probably also the only way to watch this TV show, legal or otherwise. "Distributed cloud backup" I suppose :-) (I do regr…

> "Distributed cloud backup"

Relatedly, when Docker started charging open source projects for Dockerhub storage, a friend and I started brainstorming a torrent registry driver (although we didn't find a way around the project still needing to provide a signature for verification at least, even if it didn't need to maintain hosting for the image itself)

Nothing to show for it just yet, but point being I think this "distributed cloud backup" idea has a lot of interesting applications still.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

#96
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2007 I uploaded a rather obscure TV show to Demonoid, ripped from DVDs that were quite difficult to obtain and that I have long since lost. A few months ago I downloaded it from TPB; somewhat to my surprise it was the same torrent I had uploaded 16 years ago. I thought that was kinda neat. It's probably also the only way to watch this TV show, legal or otherwise. "Distributed cloud backup" I suppose :-) (I do regr…

> "Distributed cloud backup" Relatedly, when Docker started charging open source projects for Dockerhub storage, a friend and I started brainstorming a torrent registry driver (although we didn't find a way around the project still needing to provide a signature for verification at least, even if it didn't need to maintain hosting for the image itself) Nothing to show for it just yet, but point being I think this "di…

What's the signature problem? For a read-only registry, signatures can all be included in the torrent.

For a versioned registry, all the info can be stored in any cloud key-value store - eg. The bittorrent DHT

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

#97
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2007 I uploaded a rather obscure TV show to Demonoid, ripped from DVDs that were quite difficult to obtain and that I have long since lost. A few months ago I downloaded it from TPB; somewhat to my surprise it was the same torrent I had uploaded 16 years ago. I thought that was kinda neat. It's probably also the only way to watch this TV show, legal or otherwise. "Distributed cloud backup" I suppose :-) (I do regr…

> "Distributed cloud backup" Relatedly, when Docker started charging open source projects for Dockerhub storage, a friend and I started brainstorming a torrent registry driver (although we didn't find a way around the project still needing to provide a signature for verification at least, even if it didn't need to maintain hosting for the image itself) Nothing to show for it just yet, but point being I think this "di…

It sounds like IPFS (or other content-addressed distributed data stores) may be more what you're after there than Bittorrent

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

#98
post #82

Side-note: I will always be in awe of the BitTorrent protocol. A resilient and efficient piece of tech that at its height was responsible for LARGE amounts of internet traffic (facilitated by sites like the TPB) and was (mostly) developed by just one guy: Bram Cohen.

In 2007 I uploaded a rather obscure TV show to Demonoid, ripped from DVDs that were quite difficult to obtain and that I have long since lost. A few months ago I downloaded it from TPB; somewhat to my surprise it was the same torrent I had uploaded 16 years ago. I thought that was kinda neat. It's probably also the only way to watch this TV show, legal or otherwise. "Distributed cloud backup" I suppose :-) (I do regr…

Out of interest, do you know if it was the exact same torrent (modulo trackers), i.e. the same infohash/magnet? You could have a look at the created date in the metadata to get an idea. One unfortunate thing with torrenting is how you'd often get the same content but in slightly different torrents, sometimes differing only by "torrent downloaded from xtremetrackrr69.txt", which would split the users into different swarms. Bittorrent 2 does actually fix this, by having per-file hash trees rather than non-aligned blocks, but you do still need to add each torrent before your client can notice the duplicate files. Though perhaps there exist reverse indexes which can find other torrents for a given file hash now

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

#99
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2007 I uploaded a rather obscure TV show to Demonoid, ripped from DVDs that were quite difficult to obtain and that I have long since lost. A few months ago I downloaded it from TPB; somewhat to my surprise it was the same torrent I had uploaded 16 years ago. I thought that was kinda neat. It's probably also the only way to watch this TV show, legal or otherwise. "Distributed cloud backup" I suppose :-) (I do regr…

Out of interest, do you know if it was the exact same torrent (modulo trackers), i.e. the same infohash/magnet? You could have a look at the created date in the metadata to get an idea. One unfortunate thing with torrenting is how you'd often get the same content but in slightly different torrents, sometimes differing only by "torrent downloaded from xtremetrackrr69.txt", which would split the users into different sw…

I don't know; it says "uploaded on 2007-10-19" with my (old) username, so I assume it's the same torrent. It doesn't have the "Downloaded from Demonoid.txt" file though, so maybe I'm misremembering that I uploaded it to Demonoid, or it's a different torrent (but with "my" files).

To be honest I can't be bothered to look at it further, but here's the torrent if you want to look at it yourself: https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=3848177 (with the disclaimer that some comments in the README do NOT represent my current attitude or views, and haven't for well over 10 years)

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

#100

I find the opinions of Peter Sunde in this article quite interesting. Even seven years ago he was saying that torrent sites had stagnated and there was necessity for innovation to protect against the vulnerabilities inherent in having only few large, popular torrent sites. So, this 20th anniversary is somewhat of a bitter pill to swallow for at least one of the founders. https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-founder-pi…

> So, this 20th anniversary is somewhat of a bitter pill to swallow for at least one of the founders.

I don't see how that would be the case, as nothing what he said is wrong. Torrenting in general is getting less popular for a while now, many private tracker sites are alive but not as active as 10 years ago, especially if it's something which was replaced by legal streaming like music trackers.

In my group of "regular people" friends none of them pirates any more and they all just use Netflix and Spotify. It went back to being a nerd thing after being mainstream for a while with Limewire/TPB/Popcorntime etc.

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