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Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by Etheryte »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #50
bilekas wrote: post #48

> It's important to note that blocking ads is NOT theft. Don't fall for this creepy idea, which is the criminalisation of the inalienable right to privacy. This is something I've never actually focused on but it's wild the amount of people I've installed AdBlock and ublock for who think it's something nefarious.

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This stance is absurd. It's your device, you choose what content you want to consume on it. Do you imagine a world where you buy a monitor and once every hour it shows you fullscreen ads from the device manufacturer without your consent? Maybe you do, but for everyone else that's a dystopia.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by dan353hehe »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #50
bilekas wrote: post #48

> It's important to note that blocking ads is NOT theft. Don't fall for this creepy idea, which is the criminalisation of the inalienable right to privacy. This is something I've never actually focused on but it's wild the amount of people I've installed AdBlock and ublock for who think it's something nefarious.

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Is it also unethical to not read the ads in a newspaper? Or to not watch the commercials on TV?

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by paulryanrogers »

Etheryte wrote: post #51
paulryanrogers wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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This stance is absurd. It's your device, you choose what content you want to consume on it. Do you imagine a world where you buy a monitor and once every hour it shows you fullscreen ads from the device manufacturer without your consent? Maybe you do, but for everyone else that's a dystopia.

Visiting sites consume resources. If you walk into a store and take a gift card you're still consuming resources meant to be paid for, even if they're mostly digital resources. Regardless of the car or shoes you used to do it.

I don't welcome a world of paid products that also include ads. Yet ads do make some paid products cheaper, like say a Kindle or a TV. Folks blocking ads from a premium product probably have a stronger defense. Those blocking ads from an entirely ad supported service less so.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by carlosjobim »

kevincox wrote: post #8

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Anybody who publishes any kind of media can insert advertisements that are unblockable. For example if your content is in text-form, you have to make the ad a part of the body text, just like I do while I sip from a refreshing and healthy Dr Pepper. Of course you can not track, spy, or install malware on your visitors machines with such in-content ads, but there are other ways to check if the ads work.

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Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by paulryanrogers »

dan353hehe wrote: post #52
paulryanrogers wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Is it also unethical to not read the ads in a newspaper? Or to not watch the commercials on TV?

If it was automated and you still consumed the other resources (paid largely or entirely by ad impressions) then that case could be made.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by meristohm »

charcircuit wrote: post #46
kibwen wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've got the analogy right in that the internet is like a public park. Where your analogy goes wrong is in the fact that these service providers have set up a bakery in the park, and are trying to charge anyone who merely smells the bread, and then accuse people of stealing when they refuse to pay for the act of inhaling while walking through the public park. The internet is a public resource . Your website is a gu…

Sites don't require advertisements around links to their sites. Once you follow a link (scent) to the destination that is when advertisements are shown in exchange for allowing you to access something of value. >Once you have served it to me, you don't get to dictate how I use it. If you do not have a license to modify the site that is copyright infringement.

For personal consumption?

I modify the ebooks I read, changing the font and other formatting, reducing the size of images or removing them entirely, and removing advert pages (sometimes, not compulsively). I do this for my own readability preferences (I don't have a formalized disability, just preferences at this point). As I am not reselling the artist's work, I consider this fair use. To what degree am I wrong?

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by tech_ken »

ChicagoBoy11 wrote: post #24
SeanAnderson wrote: post #6

Lichess is so fucking cool. It's easily one of my top inspirations for building a company "right." My favorite part of Lichess is their open financials. Check it out: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Si3PMUJGR9KrpE5lngSk... If you want to know the exact amount to donate to offset your gameplay - you can actually do that.

Kind of fascinating that their biggest cost is site moderation! This seems... odd for a site whose main mechanic really isn't social networking.

Chess players are some of the saltiest people on Earth, people can get really mean in chat. Also cheaters galore

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by hxii »

coldpie wrote: post #12

Is BlockBear a good solution on iOS? I switched to iOS from Android because they were the only ones making a good, small-ish phone (on Android, I'd just use Firefox and uBlock Origin), but I had no idea what ad blocker to pick. What I have kinda works, but I do still see ads sometimes, and the app seems kinda skeevy. Would be happy to try something else if it is recommended.

BlockBear is so outdated (last update was 5 years ago) that I have no idea how it can be recommended.

I personally use AdGuard in combination with Ghostery (but I also run PiHole, which I’m connected to all the time).

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