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Re: How many medical studies are faked or flawed?

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Pretty sure most studies about the effects of coffee and red wine are flawed.

What!? Everyone knows a glass of wine once a day is good for your heart, but also even a single glass a year is way too much and causes irreversible damage ;)

The old adage applies: "everything nice is either illegal or bad for your health". Or both, I would add.

Re: How many medical studies are faked or flawed?

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Pretty sure most studies about the effects of coffee and red wine are flawed.

That cynicism you have about those studies is probably because you don't eat enough eggs. Or too many. I'm not sure...

At least I get eggs from a neighbor and not “big egg”; I keep thinking about getting my own chickens but that’s not the way I want to feed Mr. Fox who lives in my neighborhood too.

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I often chuckle that same people who vehemently defend vaccine safety studies also decry studies that show processed seed oils, glyphosate, aspartame, and hundreds of other molecules or compounds are unsafe over time. That's the beauty of medical studies! Whether they're good or bad, your own biases mean you can simply ignore the ones that don't align with your opinions.

Oh, before I forget! Red meat and saturated fat is terrible for you! Wait, no, it's actually sugar that's evil. Vegetables are great for you! Oh wait, most vegetables contain oxalates and other defense, mechanisms and compounds that are actually bad for you overtime.

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That cynicism you have about those studies is probably because you don't eat enough eggs. Or too many. I'm not sure...

At least I get eggs from a neighbor and not “big egg”; I keep thinking about getting my own chickens but that’s not the way I want to feed Mr. Fox who lives in my neighborhood too.

Well, your free range chickens aren't truly free range if they don't have to fend off the occasional (and free range) fox!

Nothing is more natural and free range than the occasional murder between animals.

Re: How many medical studies are faked or flawed?

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why coffee and red wine specifically?

Both of those are substances that should be harmful based on the effects of the major ingredients: e.g. caffeine is addictive and when I am deprived of it my schizotypy flares up and I have paranoid episodes (I yell at my wife “why the hell are you always standing where I want to go next?”) I have had two doctors tell me three other reasons why I should quit. Look in the medical literature and it seems outright spamm…

Furan content in coffee too. Very low amount but still.

Coffee prevents headaches for me so I'll always drink it. And no it's not related to physical dependence although at this point the withdrawal will guarantee a headache.

Re: How many medical studies are faked or flawed?

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I often chuckle that same people who vehemently defend vaccine safety studies also decry studies that show processed seed oils, glyphosate, aspartame, and hundreds of other molecules or compounds are unsafe over time. That's the beauty of medical studies! Whether they're good or bad, your own biases mean you can simply ignore the ones that don't align with your opinions. Oh, before I forget! Red meat and saturated fa…

I've never met one of those people. In general people who decry vaccines (as a norm, not talking about the covid can of worms) tend to fall into the "alternative medicine" bucket and distrust all science studies, and those who trust vaccines tend to also trust other scientific studies...

Re: How many medical studies are faked or flawed?

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"For more than 150 trials, Carlisle got access to anonymized individual participant data (IPD). By studying the IPD spreadsheets, he judged that 44% of these trials contained at least some flawed data: impossible statistics, incorrect calculations or duplicated numbers or figures, for instance. And in 26% of the papers had problems that were so widespread that the trial was impossible to trust, he judged — either because the authors were incompetent, or because they had faked the data."

So, 70% fake/flawed. The finding falls in line with other large scale replication studies in medicine, which have had replication success rates ranging from 11 to 44%. [1] It's quite difficult to imagine why studies where a positive outcome is a gateway to billions of dollars in profits, while a negative outcome would result in substantial losses, might end up being somehow less than accurate.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis#In_medicine

Re: How many medical studies are faked or flawed?

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post #11

Pretty sure most studies about the effects of coffee and red wine are flawed.

What!? Everyone knows a glass of wine once a day is good for your heart, but also even a single glass a year is way too much and causes irreversible damage ;) The old adage applies: "everything nice is either illegal or bad for your health". Or both, I would add.

> "everything nice is either illegal or bad for your health"

And is known to cause cancer in the State of California.

Re: How many medical studies are faked or flawed?

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Pretty sure most studies about the effects of coffee and red wine are flawed.

I read a lot of studies about gout, there's a lot of studies like "we found participants who consumed x cups of coffee lowered their uric acid" all of them follow the same pattern. They asked people to consume more liquids, and it lowered their uric acids.

I think peeing more lowers your uric acid.

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