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Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by spinningslate »

marcrosoft wrote: post #15
treme wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

props to founders & gov of France that has special funding for such institutions.

Except if you look at their financials they are paying a huge tax being a French company. Their resources would go further if they left.

which is what enables the French government to fund companies like lichess in the first place.

>Their resources would go further if they left.

So, what, say "thanks for the funding that got us started, we're off to fill our pockets somewhere else now"?

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by capableweb »

marcrosoft wrote: post #15
treme wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

props to founders & gov of France that has special funding for such institutions.

Except if you look at their financials they are paying a huge tax being a French company. Their resources would go further if they left.

Maybe I'm too European, but ~5K out of ~44K total per month doesn't seem too bad. It's also based on what they earn, rather than a static sum, so seems totally OK for what you get back from it.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by capableweb »

johndhi wrote: post #19
SeanAnderson wrote: post #6

Lichess is so fucking cool. It's easily one of my top inspirations for building a company "right." My favorite part of Lichess is their open financials. Check it out: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Si3PMUJGR9KrpE5lngSk... If you want to know the exact amount to donate to offset your gameplay - you can actually do that.

why are the developers' salaries so low? $60k a year??

In most places in the world, that's nowhere near a low salary for a developer.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by Tmpod »

johndhi wrote: post #19
SeanAnderson wrote: post #6

Lichess is so fucking cool. It's easily one of my top inspirations for building a company "right." My favorite part of Lichess is their open financials. Check it out: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Si3PMUJGR9KrpE5lngSk... If you want to know the exact amount to donate to offset your gameplay - you can actually do that.

why are the developers' salaries so low? $60k a year??

That's a very high salary in a lot of places, perhaps the developers don't feel the need to get 100k+/year...? .-.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

#46

Post by charcircuit »

kibwen wrote: post #18
kevincox wrote: post #8

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You've got the analogy right in that the internet is like a public park. Where your analogy goes wrong is in the fact that these service providers have set up a bakery in the park, and are trying to charge anyone who merely smells the bread, and then accuse people of stealing when they refuse to pay for the act of inhaling while walking through the public park. The internet is a public resource . Your website is a gu…

Sites don't require advertisements around links to their sites. Once you follow a link (scent) to the destination that is when advertisements are shown in exchange for allowing you to access something of value.

>Once you have served it to me, you don't get to dictate how I use it.

If you do not have a license to modify the site that is copyright infringement.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by ThePyCoder »

marcrosoft wrote: post #15
treme wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

props to founders & gov of France that has special funding for such institutions.

Except if you look at their financials they are paying a huge tax being a French company. Their resources would go further if they left.

Not really. Taxes are so high because people get a lot of things for cheap/free like Healthcare and education. In countries where this isn't the case (USA for example) you'd easily pay 2 to 3 times the salary to get the same developer.

In this case even only paying the main dev a US wage would be more than the taxes on everything.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by bilekas »

> It's important to note that blocking ads is NOT theft. Don't fall for this creepy idea, which is the criminalisation of the inalienable right to privacy.

This is something I've never actually focused on but it's wild the amount of people I've installed AdBlock and ublock for who think it's something nefarious.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

#49

Post by Karunamon »

spinningslate wrote: post #41
marcrosoft wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except if you look at their financials they are paying a huge tax being a French company. Their resources would go further if they left.

which is what enables the French government to fund companies like lichess in the first place. >Their resources would go further if they left. So, what, say "thanks for the funding that got us started, we're off to fill our pockets somewhere else now"?

… Absolutely yes? Governments are amoral entities, and this particular relationship is based entirely on power (pay us or else), not mutual respect or any of the other things that characterize human social relationships.

If we must anthropomorphize them anyways, then they have paid back in taxes many times more than they were given to start. Any such "implicit" debt was long since paid, so they could move with a clear conscience.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

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Post by paulryanrogers »

bilekas wrote: post #48

> It's important to note that blocking ads is NOT theft. Don't fall for this creepy idea, which is the criminalisation of the inalienable right to privacy. This is something I've never actually focused on but it's wild the amount of people I've installed AdBlock and ublock for who think it's something nefarious.

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