Live data from Hacker News

Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

lichess.org

31–40 of 211 posts

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

#31

Lichess is so fucking cool. It's easily one of my top inspirations for building a company "right." My favorite part of Lichess is their open financials. Check it out: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Si3PMUJGR9KrpE5lngSk... If you want to know the exact amount to donate to offset your gameplay - you can actually do that.

Fascinating. Looks like the cost per game is $0.00028, or about $1 per 3,500 games.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

#32
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

props to founders & gov of France that has special funding for such institutions.

Except if you look at their financials they are paying a huge tax being a French company. Their resources would go further if they left.

Because in ither countries you would not pay taxes at all…

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

#33

Lichess is so fucking cool. It's easily one of my top inspirations for building a company "right." My favorite part of Lichess is their open financials. Check it out: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Si3PMUJGR9KrpE5lngSk... If you want to know the exact amount to donate to offset your gameplay - you can actually do that.

Kind of fascinating that their biggest cost is site moderation! This seems... odd for a site whose main mechanic really isn't social networking.

Goes to show you how difficult and demanding moderation truly is, and why popular sites/services routinely fail to do it effectively. It's a quite proactive process.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

#34
post #30

Thibault (the creator of lichess) is a really impressive human being. I don’t idolize people but he is quite inspiring. There’s an old perpetual chess podcast episode where he said he has never seen a single ad that was useful :-) Which is somewhat extreme and probably hyperbole but still his philosophy is loud and clear.

On this subject, I did see an ad for a small music festival near my hometown, and i brought the ticket and had a good time. If i had not seen the add, I would not have known about the festival, so I actually did at least once see a useful ad

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

#35
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except if you look at their financials they are paying a huge tax being a French company. Their resources would go further if they left.

Because in ither countries you would not pay taxes at all…

No they are a non profit.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

#36

Lichess is so fucking cool. It's easily one of my top inspirations for building a company "right." My favorite part of Lichess is their open financials. Check it out: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Si3PMUJGR9KrpE5lngSk... If you want to know the exact amount to donate to offset your gameplay - you can actually do that.

Kind of fascinating that their biggest cost is site moderation! This seems... odd for a site whose main mechanic really isn't social networking.

There is all kinds of player bad behavior that needs to be manually verified - cheating is the obvious one, but there's also smurfing, excessive sandbagging, clock abuse (e.g. letting your clock tick down to zero in a loss, just to be annoying).

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

#37
post #8

[flagged]

It isn't theft, that's a gross exaggeration. Alas it's a popular one. https://www.tomsguide.com/us/ad-blocking-is-stealing,news-20... > These days, most Web publishers rely on advertising to pay the bills. Some charge subscription fees, but for the most part, readers have shown that they aren't willing to pay for access to Web content. Even if they earn revenue from subscriptions or e-commerce links, few sites can tu…

> I use the ad blocker in my brain

Blocking ads is about more than just not perceiving them (although that's a tremendous benefit). Ads are actually hostile: they often ruin the UI/UX, make the site harder to use, can install malware of all kinds, and/or directly harvest data from you for profit (which could also be called stealing, to use the language of the industry).

Ad-blocking software is simply form of self defense.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

#38
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kind of fascinating that their biggest cost is site moderation! This seems... odd for a site whose main mechanic really isn't social networking.

Goes to show you how difficult and demanding moderation truly is, and why popular sites/services routinely fail to do it effectively. It's a quite proactive process.

That's an incredibly good point. I would think you'd need a pretty modest operation when it comes to that for a site like lichess, and the fact that it is the biggest expense really puts into focus the kind of scale the problem likely is at the bigger social media sites.

Re: Lichess: Block Ads and Trackers

#39
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kind of fascinating that their biggest cost is site moderation! This seems... odd for a site whose main mechanic really isn't social networking.

I play regularly on lichess. I got insulted a couple of times in the game chat. Looking at the scale of lichess, I am sure it adds up.

Me too, but it's still much better on lichess than chess.com in my experience. Also, cheating is not as bad on lichess
Post reply on HN