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I call it the Homeless Industrial Complex

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Re: I call it the Homeless Industrial Complex

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This skirts pretty close to saying that homelessness is an issue of "personal responsibility" while claiming to be apolitical. Homelessness is a complicated issue but the core of the solution is very simple: Provide housing. Whether that is a short term stay in a shelter or a lifelong stay in permanent housing is going to depend on the individual. But either way, you need a safe place to sleep and live before you can…

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Re: I call it the Homeless Industrial Complex

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This skirts pretty close to saying that homelessness is an issue of "personal responsibility" while claiming to be apolitical. Homelessness is a complicated issue but the core of the solution is very simple: Provide housing. Whether that is a short term stay in a shelter or a lifelong stay in permanent housing is going to depend on the individual. But either way, you need a safe place to sleep and live before you can…

Author seems to suggest that housing first won't work. I might have missed it but I don't know why. What do they suggest instead?

I get the sense that they are suggesting a housing + services approach. My read on why they think Housing First is flawed is that housing was offered and services were withheld. This implies some kind of public counseling service for the newly housed which could have its own set of issues. But in my opinion seems worth trying... if they're going to throw billions at this thing hiring a few qualified therapists couldn't hurt.

Re: I call it the Homeless Industrial Complex

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This skirts pretty close to saying that homelessness is an issue of "personal responsibility" while claiming to be apolitical. Homelessness is a complicated issue but the core of the solution is very simple: Provide housing. Whether that is a short term stay in a shelter or a lifelong stay in permanent housing is going to depend on the individual. But either way, you need a safe place to sleep and live before you can…

Author seems to suggest that housing first won't work. I might have missed it but I don't know why. What do they suggest instead?

It seems like the suggestion (by implication) is mandatory treatment for substance abuse and mental health issues.

Re: I call it the Homeless Industrial Complex

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Author positions himself as an authority on homelessness by proximity to the people experiencing the issue. But nowhere in this is there the voice of homeless people themselves, or even a recognition that they are an authority as well. I was homeless on and off for many years. The cause of my homelessness was not having enough money to afford a home; not having enough money to afford the healthcare that would allow m…

It's wild how much he pushes the narrative of "the actual problem is childhood trauma/drug addiction/mental health" as if those aren't problems also common to housed people. I'm pretty sure that if I became homeless, my mental health problems (already not great) would worsen significantly, particularly without access to my medication!

Re: I call it the Homeless Industrial Complex

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As I've said before, there is a counter-intuitive meta-problem with homelessness. Fixing homelessness doesn't require love, or honesty, or any other virtue. Like most problems, it requires money. But no matter how much money is allocated to fix the problem of homelessness, fixing it attracts more homeless. Their feet aren't nailed to the ground on the other side of the continent... if they hear of a magical place tha…

This argument has been used to describe unchecked or open immigration. Those in need will migrate to those places that provide support. A crisis in one location will push those in need to flood into a neighboring location seeking help, which can overwhelm and strip available resources for that area, exacerbating the problem all over again. With communication among the poor and homeless not terribly great, more will keep coming because they heard there was a place that would help them.

How does one fix the meta problem? With immigration I can see, close the borders, require those persons to stay in their original locations and support them there, but short of drastically limiting aid I don't know how this is workable.

Re: I call it the Homeless Industrial Complex

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This guy came to my city over the summer, and he seems like he's got his own grift in terms of telling conservative politicians what they want to hear about homelessness and getting paid for it.

He mentions Obama and "Housing First", but it goes back further, to GWB, and was actually fairly successful: https://www.cnn.com/2013/04/29/opinion/frum-less-homelessnes...

Some people clearly need more than just a roof over their heads, but those other problems become much more difficult to treat when people do not have a stable place to stay.

And the statistics are very clear about the relationship between housing and homelessness:

https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/everything-you-think-you-know-...

Re: I call it the Homeless Industrial Complex

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Funny, this guy protests that he wasn't asked to return after saying they needed specific metrics and measurable results, but doesn't provide any metrics or results for alternatives to Housing First-- which does actually have studies. He also talks about how he has witnessed the rise of homelessness and scoffs at the notion that the economic system (capitalism) is squeezing people into losing their homes, but provide…

There are plenty of capitalist societies without any homeless. Maybe it's the inadequate social safety net after all.

What societies currently have zero homeless? Looking at western nations I can’t find a single country “without homelessness.”

Re: I call it the Homeless Industrial Complex

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As I've said before, there is a counter-intuitive meta-problem with homelessness. Fixing homelessness doesn't require love, or honesty, or any other virtue. Like most problems, it requires money. But no matter how much money is allocated to fix the problem of homelessness, fixing it attracts more homeless. Their feet aren't nailed to the ground on the other side of the continent... if they hear of a magical place tha…

The idea of homeless people as rootless resource consumers free and willing to migrate any distance for services is completely alien to the actual experiences and issues. Almost half of homeless people have jobs . The "street homeless" are the visible tip of the iceberg but not representative. And even more importantly, almost all homeless people have family and friends, churches, AA meetings, coffee shops where they…

GP was clearly talking about street homelessness, while you are talking about a broader issue.

Re: I call it the Homeless Industrial Complex

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This skirts pretty close to saying that homelessness is an issue of "personal responsibility" while claiming to be apolitical. Homelessness is a complicated issue but the core of the solution is very simple: Provide housing. Whether that is a short term stay in a shelter or a lifelong stay in permanent housing is going to depend on the individual. But either way, you need a safe place to sleep and live before you can…

That’s an oversimplification and relies on the word “homeless” as an explanation and solution. If the condition was called, “street living”, perhaps you would consider solutions that don’t solely address the lack of permanent dwelling, and instead look at why some people choose to live on the street. Of course there are people whose problem is fundamentally lack of a home, in which case providing a home is the soluti…

"Housing First" is not "Housing Only". It's in the name. When you provide housing first, it is essentially a multiplier for all other services.

If someone is safe, happy, and healthy living on the street then they don't need services. But that is obviously not the case in the vast majority of cases.

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