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Bard can now connect to your Google Apps and services

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Re: Bard can now connect to your Google Apps and services

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post #7

Very tangential, but I found this funny: > For example, if you’re planning a trip to the Grand Canyon (a project that takes up many tabs)... Is number of tabs considered a reasonable estimate of a project's size/complexity/scope/duration these days? If so, I'm wondering whether we could start using it instead of story points?

Number of tabs seems like a pretty good measurement in my cases! Much better than completely arbitrary story points anyway...

Re: Bard can now connect to your Google Apps and services

#12
I still think chat is not all natural for humans to interact with computers, mainly because most people are not actually good at phrasing their needs and even if they are, typing it for the LLM to understand takes so much time.

Thanks to QWERTY keyboards, our keyboards are not efficient for typing either.

Re: Bard can now connect to your Google Apps and services

#13

For someone already invested in the Google suite of products (gmail, docs, etc), this sounds pretty useful. Also, this part seems especially interesting: > Starting today with responses in English, you can use Bard’s “Google it” button to more easily double-check its answers. When you click on the “G” icon, Bard will read the response and evaluate whether there is content across the web to substantiate it. When a sta…

Bard is especially bad right now, at least compared to gpt4. Once they move to Gemini it will be interesting to compare, but until then things like "when does the new Staind album come out" have to be answered the old way with Google search and reading.

Re: Bard can now connect to your Google Apps and services

#14

I still think chat is not all natural for humans to interact with computers, mainly because most people are not actually good at phrasing their needs and even if they are, typing it for the LLM to understand takes so much time. Thanks to QWERTY keyboards, our keyboards are not efficient for typing either.

The existing paradigm is temporary. AI will improve to infer more meaning from what users want, increase their ability to perform it, and chat systems will eventually switch to optional voice input. You tell the system what to do, and it'll perform whatever steps it needs to. I can't imagine anything more natural than that, for the everyday user.

I'm sure things will get more esoteric, for the experienced computer user.

Re: Bard can now connect to your Google Apps and services

#15

I still think chat is not all natural for humans to interact with computers, mainly because most people are not actually good at phrasing their needs and even if they are, typing it for the LLM to understand takes so much time. Thanks to QWERTY keyboards, our keyboards are not efficient for typing either.

Depends what you are trying to do with a computer.

Natural language is a pretty brilliant way to interact with a computer if you want to learn a foreign language, but it’s probably not great if you are wanting to play a first person shooter game.

One thing is clear though: it’s not one size fits all.

Re: Bard can now connect to your Google Apps and services

#16
post #5

This seems incredibly dangerous. You're one typo away from having the entirety of your private life exposed by bard. And based on their extremely loose privacy policy, I can just imagine Google pitching this to advertisers for "targeted marketing". "Hey Bard, give me an email template to manipulate tw04 into buying my product". Also, I find it more than a bit disingenuous that the privacy policy on bard.google.com li…

In my experience, there's a message with every new Bard conversation that links to the page you linked to and says "Human reviewers may process your Bard conversations for quality purposes. Don't enter sensitive info."

Re: Bard can now connect to your Google Apps and services

#17
post #14

I still think chat is not all natural for humans to interact with computers, mainly because most people are not actually good at phrasing their needs and even if they are, typing it for the LLM to understand takes so much time. Thanks to QWERTY keyboards, our keyboards are not efficient for typing either.

The existing paradigm is temporary. AI will improve to infer more meaning from what users want, increase their ability to perform it, and chat systems will eventually switch to optional voice input. You tell the system what to do, and it'll perform whatever steps it needs to. I can't imagine anything more natural than that, for the everyday user. I'm sure things will get more esoteric, for the experienced computer us…

I don’t mean to be mean but this is an example of what bugs me about the AI hype cycle.

Person has a valid criticism, the answer is a vague, wishy washy “it’ll improve and be able to provide all things to all people in exactly the way they need it”

I don’t know what I’m supposed to do with that statement. What are the concrete steps from here to there? What’s the timeline?

Re: Bard can now connect to your Google Apps and services

#18
post #14

I still think chat is not all natural for humans to interact with computers, mainly because most people are not actually good at phrasing their needs and even if they are, typing it for the LLM to understand takes so much time. Thanks to QWERTY keyboards, our keyboards are not efficient for typing either.

The existing paradigm is temporary. AI will improve to infer more meaning from what users want, increase their ability to perform it, and chat systems will eventually switch to optional voice input. You tell the system what to do, and it'll perform whatever steps it needs to. I can't imagine anything more natural than that, for the everyday user. I'm sure things will get more esoteric, for the experienced computer us…

Yes, being able to voice chat with AI is interesting, and we can already do that (e.g., using voice-to-text).

> AI will improve to infer more meaning from what users want

This is true. It already knows what it should do when I give it a piece of code and say "" (the bug emoji) or "spot the bug". If you give it the error code, it already knows it has to find a solution.

But for non-programming tasks, it'll be a challenge to infer what the user wants because language is vague and people are used to speaking ambiguously and clarifying only when the other person doesn't understand.

Re: Bard can now connect to your Google Apps and services

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post #2

Someone asked[0] what happened to Bard just 10 hours ago (or 8 hours if relative to this posting). [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37564768

Yup, maybe Google saw my post and this is their response!

I was thinking...maybe Bard read your post and decided for itself.

Re: Bard can now connect to your Google Apps and services

#20
Getting accurate results about half the time searching my own content. Probably harder for me because I have over hundreds of thousands of messages in gmail and tens of thousands of files in my drive.

example of successfully retrieving a PDF: https://i.imgur.com/Y6cSlCx.png

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