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No harbor to ship it?
This is why they had to get subsidies from Japan to ship the cars back out. There's demand for cars, but now "someone" needs to deal with the broken ones at end of life. "Someone" has to eat the negative externality of shipping the dead cars off-island.
Tonga is running out of space for more than 30k abandoned cars
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#22I hadn't realised just how small Tonga's land area is. Imagine a square 30km x 30km. It's smaller than that (747 square km). But this table of countries ranked by population densities shows Tonga is not even close to the most densely populated countries (Tonga is about 65th of about 200 countries): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependen...
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#23So many of the problems we've made seem like they could be great fixed by less people instead of more each year. Imagine the next population doubling and all that cost and suffering it will bring.
Re: Tonga is running out of space for more than 30k abandoned cars
#24I hadn't realised just how small Tonga's land area is. Imagine a square 30km x 30km. It's smaller than that (747 square km). But this table of countries ranked by population densities shows Tonga is not even close to the most densely populated countries (Tonga is about 65th of about 200 countries): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependen...
And that’s for the entire archipelago, the biggest island, Tongatapu, is 260 sq km with a density of 274.
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#25Re: Tonga is running out of space for more than 30k abandoned cars
#26So many of the problems we've made seem like they could be great fixed by less people instead of more each year. Imagine the next population doubling and all that cost and suffering it will bring.
The problem is too many cars, not too many people.
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It's an island chain of 100,000 people, so no. Plus, electricity is extremely expensive, importing the fuel to melt down steel would be crazy.
> Plus, electricity is extremely expensive I was wondering how much, and, wow: > The December 2022 review indicated that the electricity tariff would decrease from $1.19 per kWh to $1.01 per kWh, effective from the 1st of January 2023. -- http://www.finance.gov.to/node/601
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> Plus, electricity is extremely expensive I was wondering how much, and, wow: > The December 2022 review indicated that the electricity tariff would decrease from $1.19 per kWh to $1.01 per kWh, effective from the 1st of January 2023. -- http://www.finance.gov.to/node/601
California is only half the price of that :/
Re: Tonga is running out of space for more than 30k abandoned cars
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is why they had to get subsidies from Japan to ship the cars back out. There's demand for cars, but now "someone" needs to deal with the broken ones at end of life. "Someone" has to eat the negative externality of shipping the dead cars off-island.
Seems odd they don't use the same incoming ship to take cars back