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How unions won a 30% raise for every fast food worker in California

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Re: How unions won a 30% raise for every fast food worker in California

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will absolutely not install an app to order food. But if it means Taco Bell is no longer part of my diet I'll take it as a win.

Is it just a general fear of technology as to why or is there some other reason why you don't want to install an app?

I don't want to maintain an account and surveillance footprint on my phone for every brand or restaurant I deal with.

I don't ever get delivery and prefer to eat on site rather than get takeout so I don't have a need to order ahead anyway.

But I'm happy to order from an in-store kiosk once I get there.

Re: How unions won a 30% raise for every fast food worker in California

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Why does this guy write like an edgy tween TikToker? It’s incredibly embarrassing.

Yes, flagged for claiming that unions were the main reason for the increase, when it's clear that fast food wages have gone up all over the country due to inflation and a tight labor market on the low end, even where fast food workers aren't unionized, and also for an insufferably cringe writing style.

Re: How unions won a 30% raise for every fast food worker in California

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Why does this guy write like an edgy tween TikToker? It’s incredibly embarrassing.

The author, Cory Doctorow, is 52 years old and when he italicizes "a new vibe" it's an understated "(sic)" analog, which is to say that he's consciously introducing the reader to a colloquialism of the pertinent milieu.

Or were you referring to some other idiom?

Re: How unions won a 30% raise for every fast food worker in California

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post #24

Why does this guy write like an edgy tween TikToker? It’s incredibly embarrassing.

The author, Cory Doctorow, is 52 years old and when he italicizes "a new vibe " it's an understated "(sic)" analog, which is to say that he's consciously introducing the reader to a colloquialism of the pertinent milieu. Or were you referring to some other idiom?

Oh, he's not alone.

Re: How unions won a 30% raise for every fast food worker in California

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Most of the McDs around me are already paying $17-20 (in Minnesota, including rural areas) and the menu prices reflect it. We recently have begun to pay >$50 for a family of four. For context: the two cheeseburger meal is now just under $11. Subway is the same thing, with most sandwiches topping $10/ea and totals coming out around $50 for four of us. What is interesting, however, is that we're not witnessing this wit…

> Most of the McDs around me are already paying $17-20 (in Minnesota, including rural areas) and the menu prices reflect it

McDonalds had $1.9B in profit in 2022. $1.6B in 2021. Starbucks had $3.3B in profit in 2022. $3.6B in 2021. Subway announced they had beaten sales plans by $1.4B in 2021.

It's not the wages that are the issue making the prices go up. These companies aren't hurting for profit.

Re: How unions won a 30% raise for every fast food worker in California

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I've noticed is there there is a huge "app subsidy" (drive through tax?) for many fast food chains. For example, Taco Bell has a $6 online-only combo that's probably 40-60% discount over the drive-thru menu equivalent. I've noticed similar things with other chains as well. As a business strategy, this makes some minor amount of sense since the app orders are transparently more efficient than drive through orders…

I wonder whether their subsidizing the app orders to push users over: not just because they can presumably mine other data but because they can hire fewer cashiers and maybe keep their kitchen utilization up if there’s never a delay due to someone slow ahead of you in line. It would not be surprising to see a logical endpoint here treating the cash register like banks treated ATMs where there’s eventually a charge to…

I suspect its more about market segmentation. Its a slight hassle to use the app and if you want those great deals you dont get much choice in what you can order at a discount - the discounted menu items rotate frequently.

So people who have more disposable income wont make a habit of using the steep in-app discounts and just order whatever they feel like eating at MSRP.

Re: How unions won a 30% raise for every fast food worker in California

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post #2

Most of the McDs around me are already paying $17-20 (in Minnesota, including rural areas) and the menu prices reflect it. We recently have begun to pay >$50 for a family of four. For context: the two cheeseburger meal is now just under $11. Subway is the same thing, with most sandwiches topping $10/ea and totals coming out around $50 for four of us. What is interesting, however, is that we're not witnessing this wit…

> Most of the McDs around me are already paying $17-20 (in Minnesota, including rural areas) and the menu prices reflect it McDonalds had $1.9B in profit in 2022. $1.6B in 2021. Starbucks had $3.3B in profit in 2022. $3.6B in 2021. Subway announced they had beaten sales plans by $1.4B in 2021. It's not the wages that are the issue making the prices go up. These companies aren't hurting for profit.

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